The flashbacks for Sasuke did give me a lot of sympathy. I lost it when we got back to the fight, but I felt for the younger version.
"More special than you" has been a running joke in anime fandom now as a result of Uchiha Sasuke. It's the epitome of whiny me-monster.
By which I mean, I kind of feel that if you watched that fight between Sasuke and Naruto and thought that the subtext was "I wanna get into his pants," I think you missed the point.
I agree with you there. I'm actually kind of neutral about Sasuke/Naruto. I'm okay with it if they're much, much older, where you feel like enough time has passed for them to get acquainted with the idea of an "unconventional" (in the Naruto universe) sexuality and how rivalry can be an attraction as well as a repulsion (aka late teens or adulthood) AND provided that Sasuke has gotten over himself enough to be believably reformed. But when they're kids? It's all friendship and brotherhood. Attraction isn't even on their RADAR. It's not romantic love, here. Even twelve year olds know the difference.
That is almost the same emotional arc as Sasuke's relationship with Naruto, with the exception that Naruto is the one striving for attention and to be as good as/better than, and Sasuke is the one not giving him attention.
I completely agree, except that it's more of a two-way street with Naruto. Although Sasuke is the one holding back on attention, Sasuke feels the resenment "I want to beat you" for Naruto as much as Naruto does for him. He didn't at first, but I think Orochimaru being stopped by Naruto in the forest and then everything else that happened gave Sasuke this extra edge of jealousy and resentment where Naruto was concerned. Reflecting his resenment for his brother.
I know that l soon every female ninja sans Temari is going to be getting medic training, which makes me go, 'way the hell to ruin any chance of letting Sakura be special.'
Oh that bugged me too. I thought it was lessened somewhat with Hinata, but at least with Hinata we saw her give Naruto medicine in the chuunin exams so you could believe she had an interest. But Ino? I read that and I was like "fuck that, what a cop out". Obviously the mangaka can't think of anything women are good for except healing.
I know some people complained when Katara got the healing trick as being a default "female" gendered power to give a cahracter, but I was impressed with how they've handled-- or in most cases not handled-- it since. Yes, Katara has learned some healing, but when asked to choose she chose fighting hands-down. Katara is a warrior first and a healer/medic second.
But I adore the whole 'sharingan as a gift' and when Kakashi is crying out of just that eye.
I loved that gaiden, and was terribly sad when they skipped it in the anime. I was hoping they'd use the filler to do gaiden for all the teachers, but sadly they just filled it with random cliche plots instead.
Because what Kakashi was wearing sort-of looked like an ANBU uniform, but I didn't see a tatto and it was never mentioned, but I thought this was around the time he was being sent out on assassination missions? Or was that after he mastered his chidori?
I'm still not sure when kakashi became Anbu. In the gaiden he'd just become jounin, and that was before the Nine Tails attacked. Given that Kakahshi is 14 years older than Naruto, in that one or two year period between losing Obito and the Nine Tails being stopped is presumably when he became ANBU. I like to think Rin died during the Nine Tails nightmare, but I don't think that's actually been revealed that I know of.
Speaking of, Sasuke has three 'comets' in his eye and Kakshi has two, correct? And do you think the Sharigan 'remembers' things it has learned? By which I mean, if it was passed on, does it/new person use jujitsu that had been memorized before, or does the new person have to relearn everything?
Isn't it the other way around? At least in the "modern" timeline. Sasuke and Kakashi both started out with two, but by the time Team 7 is formed Kakashi has three. Itachi has the stage past three.
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"More special than you" has been a running joke in anime fandom now as a result of Uchiha Sasuke. It's the epitome of whiny me-monster.
By which I mean, I kind of feel that if you watched that fight between Sasuke and Naruto and thought that the subtext was "I wanna get into his pants," I think you missed the point.
I agree with you there. I'm actually kind of neutral about Sasuke/Naruto. I'm okay with it if they're much, much older, where you feel like enough time has passed for them to get acquainted with the idea of an "unconventional" (in the Naruto universe) sexuality and how rivalry can be an attraction as well as a repulsion (aka late teens or adulthood) AND provided that Sasuke has gotten over himself enough to be believably reformed. But when they're kids? It's all friendship and brotherhood. Attraction isn't even on their RADAR. It's not romantic love, here. Even twelve year olds know the difference.
That is almost the same emotional arc as Sasuke's relationship with Naruto, with the exception that Naruto is the one striving for attention and to be as good as/better than, and Sasuke is the one not giving him attention.
I completely agree, except that it's more of a two-way street with Naruto. Although Sasuke is the one holding back on attention, Sasuke feels the resenment "I want to beat you" for Naruto as much as Naruto does for him. He didn't at first, but I think Orochimaru being stopped by Naruto in the forest and then everything else that happened gave Sasuke this extra edge of jealousy and resentment where Naruto was concerned. Reflecting his resenment for his brother.
I know that l soon every female ninja sans Temari is going to be getting medic training, which makes me go, 'way the hell to ruin any chance of letting Sakura be special.'
Oh that bugged me too. I thought it was lessened somewhat with Hinata, but at least with Hinata we saw her give Naruto medicine in the chuunin exams so you could believe she had an interest. But Ino? I read that and I was like "fuck that, what a cop out". Obviously the mangaka can't think of anything women are good for except healing.
I know some people complained when Katara got the healing trick as being a default "female" gendered power to give a cahracter, but I was impressed with how they've handled-- or in most cases not handled-- it since. Yes, Katara has learned some healing, but when asked to choose she chose fighting hands-down. Katara is a warrior first and a healer/medic second.
But I adore the whole 'sharingan as a gift' and when Kakashi is crying out of just that eye.
I loved that gaiden, and was terribly sad when they skipped it in the anime. I was hoping they'd use the filler to do gaiden for all the teachers, but sadly they just filled it with random cliche plots instead.
Because what Kakashi was wearing sort-of looked like an ANBU uniform, but I didn't see a tatto and it was never mentioned, but I thought this was around the time he was being sent out on assassination missions? Or was that after he mastered his chidori?
I'm still not sure when kakashi became Anbu. In the gaiden he'd just become jounin, and that was before the Nine Tails attacked. Given that Kakahshi is 14 years older than Naruto, in that one or two year period between losing Obito and the Nine Tails being stopped is presumably when he became ANBU. I like to think Rin died during the Nine Tails nightmare, but I don't think that's actually been revealed that I know of.
Speaking of, Sasuke has three 'comets' in his eye and Kakshi has two, correct? And do you think the Sharigan 'remembers' things it has learned? By which I mean, if it was passed on, does it/new person use jujitsu that had been memorized before, or does the new person have to relearn everything?
Isn't it the other way around? At least in the "modern" timeline. Sasuke and Kakashi both started out with two, but by the time Team 7 is formed Kakashi has three. Itachi has the stage past three.