Yes, they do. Because for Chiyo those events are very real. That’s why she didn’t leave Sakura to face Sasori alone.
I was talking about the first time he faced Hidan, in which Kakuza didn’t even show up until the last half of the fight, and Shikamaru’s team did do a lot. And the second time they face each other, it’s not like it would have been if they first met one on one. Shikamaru had already seen all his techniques, had days to learn to counter them, and was able to choose the battlefield. Those are the mitigating circumstances.
I’m not saying Hidan wasn’t powerful, but that his techniques are very limited in their actual application, and were horribly inadequate to face Shikamaru’s shadow bind. And I didn’t say that it wasn’t still dangerous, but that Shikamaru basically controlled that battle right from the start.
Sasuke being a villain only has relevance form a narrative point of view. What you just described were in-world reasons for why he shouldn’t be more powerful than Sakura. Which may or may not be valid, but have little to do with whether the narrative is treating Sakura fairly. Which is what we’re talking about. Is it unfair that Jirayai is more powerful than Sakura? No. Why? Because narratively they’re in different power spheres, just as Sasuke is now in a different power sphere than not only Sakura, but Naruto, Sai, Yamato, and Orochimaru.
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I was talking about the first time he faced Hidan, in which Kakuza didn’t even show up until the last half of the fight, and Shikamaru’s team did do a lot. And the second time they face each other, it’s not like it would have been if they first met one on one. Shikamaru had already seen all his techniques, had days to learn to counter them, and was able to choose the battlefield. Those are the mitigating circumstances.
I’m not saying Hidan wasn’t powerful, but that his techniques are very limited in their actual application, and were horribly inadequate to face Shikamaru’s shadow bind. And I didn’t say that it wasn’t still dangerous, but that Shikamaru basically controlled that battle right from the start.
Sasuke being a villain only has relevance form a narrative point of view. What you just described were in-world reasons for why he shouldn’t be more powerful than Sakura. Which may or may not be valid, but have little to do with whether the narrative is treating Sakura fairly. Which is what we’re talking about. Is it unfair that Jirayai is more powerful than Sakura? No. Why? Because narratively they’re in different power spheres, just as Sasuke is now in a different power sphere than not only Sakura, but Naruto, Sai, Yamato, and Orochimaru.