I thought that was horrific. I stared at the manga on the computer screen going, "WHAT. THE. FUCK. What kind of message is THAT to give kids?" It's irresponsible to the Nth degree as a writer of books read by teens and children, and it's also making Shikamaru look like an idiot. I can't see why the genius of Konoha who is only barely second to Kakashi (maybe eventually smarter) would voluntarily hook himself to a lifelong addiction that would probably inhibit his ability to be a ninja, especially since he'd be starting at FIFTEEN. Which means life-long lung damage. But, hey, it's not the mangaka's ever done anything pointlessly ridiculous before, right?
*almost falls off the couch laughing* Oh, god, I completely missed that! You're right of course, but.. oh, god, for some reason that strikes me as hilarious. And now I want to write Temari totally kicking his ass for it.
LAME-O LAME LAME. I'm glad I'm not the only one having that reaction. I like the conspiracy aspect of all of this, and the clan in-fighting and the spying, but I don't see how we're supposed to translate that mass murder into some kind of angelic sacrifice. Even if he was not so bad before he did it... after he did, there was no going back. Whatever good he had, is gone.
Yeah. I don't hate it as much as I did on first reading, but I don't trust the mangaka to make Mandara the FUCKING BLANTANTLY biased narrator he actually is.
I mean, I think even someone like Kakashi, who I like to believe is a stone-cold killer who'd do anything for the village (like the Sannin, like most of the jounin, like possibly Sakura one day)...even someone like Kakashi would defect before killing his own entire family. He'd take them away or something. Because if they are all raised to defend the village, then killing your entire extended clan is the total opposite of what you're meant to be defending. I think most people would see the irrationality of it, the paradox of it.
WORD. I totally agree about Kakashi, and I think while you could argue, that he, post-dad's suicide, would kill his family on orders... he didn't have any than. I think by the time you get to the point that you'd do it, you already don't have any precious people left? And for a show that's so focused on family, both of the blood and the spiritual kind, there is NO WAY that the mangaka can make mass-murder of family members fit into his world as a good thing. It totally doesn't work with the whole paradigm of the show.
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*almost falls off the couch laughing* Oh, god, I completely missed that! You're right of course, but.. oh, god, for some reason that strikes me as hilarious. And now I want to write Temari totally kicking his ass for it.
LAME-O LAME LAME. I'm glad I'm not the only one having that reaction. I like the conspiracy aspect of all of this, and the clan in-fighting and the spying, but I don't see how we're supposed to translate that mass murder into some kind of angelic sacrifice. Even if he was not so bad before he did it... after he did, there was no going back. Whatever good he had, is gone.
Yeah. I don't hate it as much as I did on first reading, but I don't trust the mangaka to make Mandara the FUCKING BLANTANTLY biased narrator he actually is.
I mean, I think even someone like Kakashi, who I like to believe is a stone-cold killer who'd do anything for the village (like the Sannin, like most of the jounin, like possibly Sakura one day)...even someone like Kakashi would defect before killing his own entire family. He'd take them away or something. Because if they are all raised to defend the village, then killing your entire extended clan is the total opposite of what you're meant to be defending. I think most people would see the irrationality of it, the paradox of it.
WORD. I totally agree about Kakashi, and I think while you could argue, that he, post-dad's suicide, would kill his family on orders... he didn't have any than. I think by the time you get to the point that you'd do it, you already don't have any precious people left? And for a show that's so focused on family, both of the blood and the spiritual kind, there is NO WAY that the mangaka can make mass-murder of family members fit into his world as a good thing. It totally doesn't work with the whole paradigm of the show.