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redbrunja ([personal profile] redbrunja) wrote2008-06-25 04:25 am

Itachi Is More Special Than You. In Fact, The Whole Uchiha Clan Is More Special Than You

But first...

I found places to direct download all the naruto episodes, and I'm wondering which are worth watching. I'm planning on Temari rescuing Shikamaru, the episode with their conversation in the hospital (135), the Sasuke vs Naruto fight, and then in Shippuden, the Sakura versus puppeteer fight.

What else would you recommend?

I'd be interested in the episodes with Kiba/Hinata, Hinata in general, Anko (I was so disappointed she was only in the manga for two seconds and we never find out how she came to fight for Konoha), Sakura getting to be awesome, as always, Kakashi, and really, any episodes that is, either because it's funny, well animated, or has something my inner shipper would squeal over, worth the 20 minutes.

Now, on to something that is bugging me about the retcon. The morning after my Naruto bing, I woke up, and like, some poor hungover girl only now realizing who it was she brought home last night, went 'WTF, this makes even less sense than it did at 2 am!'

Okay, so, assuming that the Uchiha clan clan was treated as second class citizens (which I will, for simplicity) you have, in Itachi's youth:

Three OLD people who mistrust the Uchiha.

A sympathetic Hokage who will presumably hire a sympathetic successor.

A position in Konoha of REAL POWER. (Because no one is saying they weren't doing their job as military police.)

And you're telling me that the MAJORITY of the Uchiha clan decided that with those circumstances, ARMED RESISTANCE is the best choice?

Instead of oh, waiting for the opposition to die of old age?

I'm not going to go into Itachi being a lovely, loyal son with morals and then deciding everyone had to die, because it makes no sense. I truly think that if you kill your entire family, it doesn't matter who tells you to do so - you were just waiting for that excuse.

[identity profile] redbrunja.livejournal.com 2008-06-27 01:54 am (UTC)(link)
I would generally like to give the entire Uchiha clan the benefit of the doubt, especially sicne they've presumably been the police force through at least 4 generations of hokages and haven't tried to force a coup yet. Why would they? They already have the power. And if they waited through 4 hokages, why get up in arms now?

Exactly! It's like, why now? Why with THIS hokage, why at this time?

If it was said that they had turned into a corrupt gang that was abusing their power as the police force of the village that would make a lot more sense, given they're all related anyway so it would presumably be like a gang instead of like a professional operation. THAT would feel more believable to me.

That would make sense... actually, I would REALLY like that if it turned out to be true, because I was totally thinking, 'wait, the police are all related? Who is watching the watchmen?'


However, I think it's too clever and in character for Kishimoto.
Edited 2008-06-27 01:55 (UTC)
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[identity profile] rashaka.livejournal.com 2008-06-27 02:01 am (UTC)(link)
I feel like the police force thing was thrown out there as a good idea, but not utilized properly in explaining this backstory. Why all this garbage about a coup, when it's more logical to have them abusing their police powers. If the council really feared them for THAT reason, and couldn't arrest them for corruption because there's no one else to do the arresting, then I can see why they'd be so scared of them. That might justify something drastic. But this "planning to take over" business is stupid. Take over and do WHAT, exactly? Why take over when they're already in power in a very real way?

Plus, these are all assassins. It's a town full of assassins. Why wouldn't the uchiha clans just assassinate the councilors they don't like, frame another village for the crime, and make sure one of their own gets to replace the dead councilmen? Why plan a drastic takeover when there are so much easier ways?

[identity profile] redbrunja.livejournal.com 2008-06-27 02:11 am (UTC)(link)
I know! Bullet through the head, people, bullet through the head! It would make so much so much simpler!

I hate it when you have characters for whom it would be perfectly in character for them to do that, and they don't, just because.
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[identity profile] rashaka.livejournal.com 2008-06-27 02:13 am (UTC)(link)
This series has never had a very intelligent grasp on basic politics, which is a shame given the set-up of the world and the general story premise.