I think too many people just look at Teh Pretty when shipping and not enough at character dynamics.
And I think yaoi, at it's roots, is both feminist and sexist, so the onus is really on the individual author to pick which route they're going to follow.
etween not liking a character and bashing the hell out of them without any real argument other than "she's stupid". For example, I read a Hellsing fic that was Alucard/Anderson. And the reason it was A/A is because "Integra's is a bitch and I don't like her." Oh, and there was apparently some sexual tension between A/A that I missed in the manga because the other argument was that A/A was canon.
Another reason that Hellsing fandom is full of fail.
Also, again as you pointed out, if you're gonna change the personality/mindset of one of your OTPs to being more feminine... what the hell was the point of writing slash to begin with?
Exactly! It comes across as hating vaginas, like 'oh, the female body is just SO UGLY' which makes me shudder SO HARD when I think about it coming from other women.
I blame the het fail on Japanese cultural beliefs more than anything else. They've made it a stereotype now that any female character in love with a male character must do EVERYTHING for him. Put her life on the line, give up her goals and plans for the future just to be with him... You see it everywhere, so it's now become an accepted thing in fandom. The men are the most important things to women.
Japanese cultural beliefs? Oh no. That is totally an american cultural norm as well.
Are you talking about character death or what? Because, and maybe I've just gotten lucky in what little good yuri I've found, I'm not seeing a correlation between lesbian relationships and death in fanfiction. There's a definite correlation between lesbian relationships and angst, i.e. you see more "omg, what is everyone gonna say?" type scenarios and uncertainty in femmeslash than slash, but death? I'm not following you.
I clarifying that in my post, because I didn't say that well. What I meant was, it is much, much less likely to see a yuri couple being happy together than a yaoi couple. Yaoi has no lack of curtain!fic - I have YET to see a femmeslash curtain fic (as such, it's totally on my to-write list.)
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And I think yaoi, at it's roots, is both feminist and sexist, so the onus is really on the individual author to pick which route they're going to follow.
etween not liking a character and bashing the hell out of them without any real argument other than "she's stupid". For example, I read a Hellsing fic that was Alucard/Anderson. And the reason it was A/A is because "Integra's is a bitch and I don't like her." Oh, and there was apparently some sexual tension between A/A that I missed in the manga because the other argument was that A/A was canon.
Another reason that Hellsing fandom is full of fail.
Also, again as you pointed out, if you're gonna change the personality/mindset of one of your OTPs to being more feminine... what the hell was the point of writing slash to begin with?
Exactly! It comes across as hating vaginas, like 'oh, the female body is just SO UGLY' which makes me shudder SO HARD when I think about it coming from other women.
I blame the het fail on Japanese cultural beliefs more than anything else. They've made it a stereotype now that any female character in love with a male character must do EVERYTHING for him. Put her life on the line, give up her goals and plans for the future just to be with him... You see it everywhere, so it's now become an accepted thing in fandom. The men are the most important things to women.
Japanese cultural beliefs? Oh no. That is totally an american cultural norm as well.
Are you talking about character death or what? Because, and maybe I've just gotten lucky in what little good yuri I've found, I'm not seeing a correlation between lesbian relationships and death in fanfiction. There's a definite correlation between lesbian relationships and angst, i.e. you see more "omg, what is everyone gonna say?" type scenarios and uncertainty in femmeslash than slash, but death? I'm not following you.
I clarifying that in my post, because I didn't say that well. What I meant was, it is much, much less likely to see a yuri couple being happy together than a yaoi couple. Yaoi has no lack of curtain!fic - I have YET to see a femmeslash curtain fic (as such, it's totally on my to-write list.)