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redbrunja ([personal profile] redbrunja) wrote2009-08-04 07:48 pm

Oh, Bite Me Sookie

Okay, so I have a rocky relationship with the Sookie Stackhouse series.

They've never been ohmygod great but I've keep up with them. I really liked the first one, Dead Until Dark, and the next couple. However, imho, the books took a dive when around when Quinn was introduced. They seemed to fall into the classic urban fantasy pit of the books being about the heroine and her harem, but the last couple books pulled themselves out of that, with stuff about the vampire courts. And then we had Dead and Gone, which I set aside right after Eric and Sookie banged. Again.

Honestly, the last book was just way to much on Sookie's love life. It's become clear to me that Eric had fucked her emotions up good (which is textually explicit, but I'm not interested enough to hang around and see if the author does something interesting with that. There are more interesting consent issues going on over at Legend of the Seeker.)

Also, the whole passage about Sookie thinking about drinking vamp blood and how she'd never ever pay for it... but damn, has it made her hot! What with her getting it fresh and straight from the vein of one of her harem! was so thick with hypocrisy I wanted to slap Sookie.

That said, I can't wait for the next Harper Connelly book, which is a series that is much darker and more entertaining than the Stackhouse books - it has a more realistic set-up, I really like the heroine's power and it has a romance that is so epically twisted and delicious I would expect it to only exist in fanfic, much less be canon in a published book. I saw the subtext for Harper and Tolliver in the first book, and I wanted to get other people to read it so that I could check if my subtext meter was in tune or it I was out to lunch (I wasn't).

[identity profile] inniyah.livejournal.com 2009-08-06 02:48 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, I am so glad that I found this journal :D

Naruto, books and wirting, my favorite topics :)

It's good to know that Sookie's series are not really very good books. Some months ago, I had a thing like uhm.. a reader block?
Yeah, I read good critiques about a series, I bought the first 2 books... I dislike them so much that I couldn't even finish the first one....

It was the first time that that ever happened to me. I always finish the books I buy, myabe I was a lucky reader until that point...

Some weeks ago, a friend of mine told me that maybe, because my temper, I would like "Pride and prejudice" by Jane Austen, and I loved it.

The way she mocks social stereotypes, the way I felt it so romantic eventhough the charaters didn't even hold hands...
It ended my block...

And I was thinking of buying Sookie books, but I don't think I'll do it.

Do you know some good modern romance/supernatural books, that are not corny and stupid, and not the paper twin of Twilight?

Maybe I am paranoid, but I have noticed that a lot of supernatural series that came out after Twilight (or half before Twilight, and half after), tend to turn into it...

Maybe it's a bit like with the regency genre, after a point, a lot of them just use the same plot and just change the heroes names :(

Or maybe I don't know how to look for books.....

[identity profile] redbrunja.livejournal.com 2009-08-06 03:52 am (UTC)(link)
Well, welcome!

It was the first time that that ever happened to me. I always finish the books I buy, myabe I was a lucky reader until that point..

I'd say so. I've lost track of the number of books I've returned to the library half-read, and I don't usually buy books unless I've already read them or like the author previously.

Actually, out of disgust at Twilight, I wrote a rec post for vampire books with actually scary vampires:

http://redbrunja.livejournal.com/237070.html

to which I would add The Dresden Files by Jim Butcher and the Kitty Norville series as supernatural without vamps. (Although Butcher's work does have a couple vampires.)

[identity profile] inniyah.livejournal.com 2009-08-06 04:44 am (UTC)(link)
Thank you!!! I also love vampires!! It's so difficult to find an author that mix romance and vampires and doesn't forget that those little guys are also "scary monsters"... not misioners, or preachers, or obsessive control freaks... or sparkling fairies (shudder).
Sometimes, I was just waiting for the guy of Twilight to start singing and suddenly sprout fairy wings. Maybe if everyone were "dusty fairies of love", the thing about shinning and sprouting poetry and almost flying, and be "so beautiful", "almost like an angel, but not totally one", would have been a bit less hateful for me.I felt offended. I try to have an optimistic view of books, to rescue whatever I can and read them to the end to have a well founded opinion... This time it was impossible for me.

In fact, I felt the whole book was like hearing a realigious fanatic, trying to convert me into her religion... The only difference was that they changed the names of certain people: The doctor Whathisname, was some sort of biblical prophet or even Jesus himself.. in a way, he was "sent by his father, to be sacrificed"... Edward the prodigous son. All of them, try to show "the right way" to lost vampires.
___

For example, The analogy Twilight uses for vegetarianism and "the goodnes" that are Edward and his family, offended me.

Just "vegetarian" vampires, are good creatures.... so, does she means that vegetarian people is kinder than people that eats meat?
So, am I a some kind of monster who needs to be converted because I like to eat fish? So, from her point of view, I couldn't love a cat or a dog, because I would feel the need to eat them?

People that eats meat can have sheeps as pets, and chickens, Why, in this book, vampires that sucks blood, can't meet humans without wanting to eat them? And, well, If they are not humans anymore, they should not have a soul, nor a conscience... or at least their "soul" should also be transformed, so that when they see humans, they are as atractive to them as a cow, or a dog, or a pig...

So, in that way, wouldn't Edward be having some sort of parahillia? He wants to have sex with "his prey"... so in the end, her analogies guided me to believe, that Edward, the fairy vampire, shouldn't be frowned upon by his society not because he is vegetarian in love with a girl with serious problems of co-dependence, but because he is some sort of vegetarian lusting after his cat...

I hope I made sense? :P








[identity profile] redbrunja.livejournal.com 2009-08-06 05:23 am (UTC)(link)
Not really.

I get that you're agreeing that vampires should be scary but beyond that....

Maybe if I'd read more than 100 pages of the first twilight, I'd get it.
Edited 2009-08-06 06:52 (UTC)

[identity profile] inniyah.livejournal.com 2009-08-06 05:00 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, lol, that's probably it (mixed with my bad grammar).

A friend of mine, told me that Twilight is the life that the author would like to live, because she is probably a sexually frustrated person...
Another friend, told me that the fourth book was good, and that I should try it. I read it skipping pages

(sorry if I spoiler someone)

It's a even big WTF! I have always thought that there was psychological violence in the way the guy talked with the girl. It got worse during their marriage... I skipped several pages, and she got a child and changes herself, and then every fucking thing, gets "incredible right" and the guy is not a violent emo anymore... He doesn't think being a vampire as a "punishment" from God. No, now that Bella is like him, with his child, etc. 100 yeors of pain and self hate and emo-ness, ended.

Message to stupid teenagers: "If you have problems with you boyfirend, and he treats you badly... get married to him, change youself to his like, and have his child quickly, and everything is going to be all right... becaouse it was probably your fault". This is what domestic violency is done from in my country.

[identity profile] redbrunja.livejournal.com 2009-08-06 10:08 pm (UTC)(link)
A friend of mine, told me that Twilight is the life that the author would like to live,

Very, very true.

Message to stupid teenagers: "If you have problems with you boyfirend, and he treats you badly... get married to him, change youself to his like, and have his child quickly, and everything is going to be all right... becaouse it was probably your fault". This is what domestic violency is done from in my country.

Same in mine, sad to say.

[identity profile] cynchick.livejournal.com 2009-08-06 06:51 am (UTC)(link)
Stephenie Meyer is a Mormon. This explains almost every single WTF thing about the Twilight series. If you felt like she was preaching to you, she was, only I don't even think it was deliberate subtext. Its just her ingrained WTF. There are dozens of not-so-subtle Mormon parallels and influences, including Volturi = Catholic church = EVIL, and Werewolves = Native Americans = Lamanites = EVIL.

Read this: http://stoney321.livejournal.com/317176.html

It points out (and mocks) all of the parallels, and is one of the funniest damn things Ive ever read.

[identity profile] inniyah.livejournal.com 2009-08-06 04:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Thank you! I am definitely going to read that.
I knew she was a mormon after my failed try to read her book. I don't know a lot about mormons beyond what a mormon aquitance has told me, so I am not sure if my next opinion is well founded.
From what I have been told, they are a bit racist and sexist. Maybe that explains the lack of black vampires in the book. The only one, was not even the leader of the group. And the woman role, always behind the man (or with a man), to the point in which
No man=No brain=Zombie... There are not important s"pinsters women", while there are men who are alone.
I live in a small town but there are a bunch of different religions here (catholics, Jehovah's Witnesses, mormons, protestants, and even a bunch of fanatic christians).
I have been to birthdays, were all these people from different religions go to "get fun", and end up preaching and almost challeging each other for "who gives the most original sermon that bings more people to their religion and make God love them more"... so I really wouldn't be surprised if this book was some sort of merchandising technique to bring more teenagers and young adult followers (at least in my city, there was a mormon boom, at the same time of the Twilight boom).
I know that what she did probably was not deliberate... but well, a church it's a church. I am a "mexican catholic"... and I don't believe in the church. I know that a lot of things that powerful religions do (even if it's jus support someone), is quite well thought .
For example, La virgen de Guadalupe, It's a lie. She was the representation of Coatlicue, an aztec virgin goddess. When the church tried to convert the aztecs, they couldn't overpower the Coatlicue ritual, so the invented the Guadalupe virgin to gain adepts and to control the people. 500 years after, that lie is still working.