That's probably one of my favorite scenes in the movie. It was just really perfect. Plus, I was talking with someone about how that is the first time we've seen Loki experience any consequences that matter to him and be forced to experience real guilt. I think he has religiously repressed his feelings about 90% of the things he's done (That's what you do with feelings, right? You repress them and then they go away!); Frigga was probably the only loss that could have still meant anything to him, which I think says a lot about how much he cared about her since his freedom and his life were both things he didn't seem to care about much.
Hmmm, I’m not sure I buy Loki reaching to Frigga’s death with GUILT. Grief, yes, definitely, (and I saw the post on tumblr talking about this) but Loki has so consistently refused to see how his actions cause the things that happen to him to happen to him, I don't totally buy him feeling guilt over Frigga's death (especially when there are so many other people he could blame.)
Also, just in general, I loved the parallels between Loki and Frigga. There were a lot of subtle textual cues about how much she had influenced him and how important their relationship was. A+ on that.
I also totally loved that!
My issues with the movie mostly amount to "Was that absolutely necessary?" mostly in relation to Jane literally being limp and immobile so Thor and Loki could have their big dramatic conversation (which is not to say I didn't love their big dramatic convo, but it felt like Jane was just kind of there).
Yep, I had some of those same thoughts. Like, there are ways to let Loki and Thor have that conversation that do not require Jane to be unconcious. Have her exploring something science and not pay attention to the boys! Or even have her politely give them space! Both of those options work.
Also, Loki shielding Jane made me think of your prospective fic.
Also, gotta say, if Loki stabbed Odin in the back off-screen, I'm pretty sure I'd be okay with that.
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Hmmm, I’m not sure I buy Loki reaching to Frigga’s death with GUILT. Grief, yes, definitely, (and I saw the post on tumblr talking about this) but Loki has so consistently refused to see how his actions cause the things that happen to him to happen to him, I don't totally buy him feeling guilt over Frigga's death (especially when there are so many other people he could blame.)
Also, just in general, I loved the parallels between Loki and Frigga. There were a lot of subtle textual cues about how much she had influenced him and how important their relationship was. A+ on that.
I also totally loved that!
My issues with the movie mostly amount to "Was that absolutely necessary?" mostly in relation to Jane literally being limp and immobile so Thor and Loki could have their big dramatic conversation (which is not to say I didn't love their big dramatic convo, but it felt like Jane was just kind of there).
Yep, I had some of those same thoughts. Like, there are ways to let Loki and Thor have that conversation that do not require Jane to be unconcious. Have her exploring something science and not pay attention to the boys! Or even have her politely give them space! Both of those options work.
Also, Loki shielding Jane made me think of your prospective fic.
Also, gotta say, if Loki stabbed Odin in the back off-screen, I'm pretty sure I'd be okay with that.
SAME HERE.