"Satisfaction Isn't In My Nature"

[redbrunja]

I saw Thor: The Dark World last night, and frankly, minus a few minor quibbles, I really liked it:

• Jane/science is Jane's true OTP and probably my favorite moment was when she was on the healing table and corrected what it was called. But minus a chunck in the midle of the movie, I love that Jane spent a lot of time running around doing science.


• While I dislike Frigga's death in theory, in practice I fucking love all the conversations that it caused between Thor and Loki, and how it supported fanon that I'd been working with since Thor 1 (that Loki was closest to Frigga, that Frigga taught him magic


• ...and I cannot stress how much I loved the scene after Frigga's death were we see that Loki is just sitting depressed against the wall in his wrecked cell.


• Loki, in general, just did a lot of scene stealing


• speaking of that fantastic scene with his mother in his cell, I assumed Loki was casting the illusion of his mother, the person I saw it with assumed that his mother cast it and sent it to his cell. Your thoughts?


• I feel like there was a more explicit love triangle between Thor/Jane/Sif that was cut - THANK YOU.


• I'm really pleased that this didn't ruin my desire/ability to ship Loki/Sif (especially considering Loki called her form... what was it, ravishing?)


• the Captain America cameo was totally unexpected but awesome.


• I really enjoyed all the Darcy but I really wish she had been the person who hit those dark elves with the car. Although her dipping her intern and then dropping him was cute.


• I am so glad that Jane and Thor had their big damn kiss at the end.


• I think Thor (the character) has gotten some really excellent, subtle characterization work over the last couple of movies.


• Because I am a terrible person I LOVED the stuff with Selvig, especially how happy he was that Loki was dead.


• I think there were about fifteen minutes of the movie (especially the attack on Asgard) that could have been cut


• and I really feel that Christopher Eccolsen was wasted under all that makeup/speaking gibberish.

Comments

[grimorie.livejournal.com]

I assumed Loki was casting the illusion of his mother, the person I saw it with assumed that his mother cast it and sent it to his cell. Your thoughts?

My take was: It was Frigga who casted it, she couldn't go down into the cells because it was forbidden but it doesn't mean she couldn't see her son, Frigga found the loop hole and that's what she used whenever she wanted to visit.

[quiet-rebel.livejournal.com]

I loved seeing Loki and Frigga's relationship, which makes me believe his grief for her death was real. On the other hand, I can't trust that guy, so I don't know what to really believe. Haha. I guess that is what makes him a great villain. I also thought she had cast the illusion to visit Loki in his cell.

[hungrytiger11.livejournal.com]

I think Frigga had to have made the illusion. Structurally, it was also foreshadowing that she had the ability to make illusions of people, which is how she saved Jane. And it gives more weight to the exchange between them. Though it would have been very sad at the idea of Loki making illusions of ppl to keep him company.

Eccolsen was very wasted, and I too have loved the subtle characterization Thor has been given over the past few films.

[qualapec.livejournal.com]

I mostly enjoyed it as well! I'm really glad a lot of sad, dramatic things happened, but it still felt like it didn't take itself too seriously. I was also pretty pleased with the ways it expanded on the mythos.

...and I cannot stress how much I loved the scene after Frigga's death were we see that Loki is just sitting depressed against the wall in his wrecked cell.

That's probably one of my favorite scenes in the movie. It was just really perfect. Plus, I was talking with someone about how that is the first time we've seen Loki experience any consequences that matter to him and be forced to experience real guilt. I think he has religiously repressed his feelings about 90% of the things he's done (That's what you do with feelings, right? You repress them and then they go away!); Frigga was probably the only loss that could have still meant anything to him, which I think says a lot about how much he cared about her since his freedom and his life were both things he didn't seem to care about much.

Also, just in general, I loved the parallels between Loki and Frigga. There were a lot of subtle textual cues about how much she had influenced him and how important their relationship was. A+ on that.

I'm really pleased that this didn't ruin my desire/ability to ship Loki/Sif (especially considering Loki called her form... what was it, ravishing?)

And we got one good eye fuck moment! I'll settle for that!

Also, gotta say, if Loki stabbed Odin in the back off-screen, I'm pretty sure I'd be okay with that.

My issues with the movie mostly amount to "Was that absolutely necessary?" mostly in relation to Jane literally being limp and immobile so Thor and Loki could have their big dramatic conversation (which is not to say I didn't love their big dramatic convo, but it felt like Jane was just kind of there). HOWEVER I do cut the movie some slack for that damseling because she played such an active role in the finale!

Agreed that it should have been Darcy who swung the car at the dark elves!

Selvig...I might have been okay with the scenes he had if there were more pants involved. As it was, I just felt a lot of second-hand embarrassment for everyone around him. Mostly, every time he was on-screen, I was just thinking "There are so many things I would rather be looking at and feeling with this screen time".

[profshallowness.livejournal.com]

I broadly agree with you - Jane on the table was my favourite moment too.

My impression was that Frigga was casting.

Eccleston as the baddie reminded me of Eric Bana's Nero in the first Star Trek reboot in terms of (lack of) presence.

[mistaria.livejournal.com]

I just saw it and I LOVED it!!!! I loved the humor and Darcy and Jane + science and Jane punching Loki. And Loki. Oh man such a scene stealer. So snarky and awesome. Was so happy that we saw where Loki learned magic (fits my head canon too!) and Frigga fighting but was annoyed she died. The resulting conversation between Thor/Loki and Loki and his destroyed cell were such great results. And...

Thor: I wish I could trust you.
Loki: Trust my rage.

Was so fantastic. Made me think of Regina since I've been on a SQ fic kick. Now I need awesome Darcy fic and some good Sif/Loki.