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Fandom Tennis Match Meme:
Okay, here's how this is going to work. You comment with a fandom question. I answer it and then ask you a question that has some thematic relevance to the question you asked me.
Okay, here's how this is going to work. You comment with a fandom question. I answer it and then ask you a question that has some thematic relevance to the question you asked me.
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(unless that's not what you meant? I have a very defective sarcasm detector.)
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For you: favorite (canon) superhero team up.
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That's a hard one! I think my favorite is Batgirls & Robins in general, and maybe baby Dick and Babs in particular, by a very narrow margin.
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That does seem like a pretty epic fumble.
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And, inversely, do you think Loki has the potential to be a hero? (Potential, not necessarily realistic storyline.)
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All of them, really, but I would be MOST satisfied with Tony Stark becoming a villain. I think he has the appropriate hubris and intelligence and could go down quiet a dark path, thinking the entire time that he's in control and that he's doing what's best and that he's being a hero.
And, inversely, do you think Loki has the potential to be a hero? (Potential, not necessarily realistic storyline.)
Abso-fucking-lutely. I think we've actually seen flashes of this throughout both Thor movies.
Natasha Romanoff gets a movie - what would you like that to look like?
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I feel like Natasha has a lot of potential to develop emotionally - she's obviously been through hell and she's guarded because of that - but I think we could see her learn to find more of a balance between badass warrior chick and the other aspects of her personality. I don't like the sort of culturally embedded idea that strong women - autonomous, capable, in control, etc. - only deserve the title if they do absolutely everything on their own, without ever relying on anyone else. It doesn't have to be romantic at all - friendship with Pepper would be awesome - but I'd like to see her gain some self-awareness, that caring about other people and even letting them in a little, doesn't necessarily make her weak.
Plot-wise, I think I'd really like to see something with a Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead take on things or Xander in the episode The Zeppo on Buffy - while the super-powered heroes are off doing flashy, apocalypse-diverting shit, the movie would intersperse brief mentions of that while we follow Natasha behind the scenes, just doing her job and getting shit done, and seeing the real impact of what it's like being a superhero without superpowers. The climax should be more subtle than standard, too - not big, city-destroying, in-your-face action, but Black Widow kicking some serious ass (initially without backup) - which hinges around stopping something (like a doomsday device, etc.), that if not stopped, would have world-changing consequences, but since she manages to stop it, it's just kind of over without a huge fuss and we get to see that it's just another day at the office for her.
Also, Hawkeye would need to have a role in it - but not a huge one. I think their relationship works best as subtext, but I'd like to learn more about how they came to trust each other so much and really cement their dynamic. I think Hawkeye should have a solid presence in the movie, but for most of it he'd be off on his own mission. If he were to appear in the climax at all, Natasha would have called him earlier, thinking she's not going to survive what's coming, and that conversation would be all mission-oriented but with so much subtext, and he'd be saying, don't do anything stupid, to which she'd reply, got to get the job done, and he'd understand, exactly, because he's like that too, and then they'd mention some past mission they were on together, in which it's vaguely insinuated that they had some sort of moment, and then they'd trail off and they'd both be trying to be all stoic and emotionless but not quite succeeding, and their silence would say everything without saying anything at all.
And then Natasha would get to a point in the climax where she's practically out of ammo and she's hurt and surrounded and then Hawkeye would show up, and she'd ask him (mockingly) if he's there to save her, to which he'd reply that he wouldn't dare, whilst shooting a bad guy about to kill her, then he stays to hold off the horde of minions whilst she goes to stop the doomsday machine or whatever and he tells her he's got her back, while she's off saving the world.
Then the movie would end with Natasha out with Pepper, drinking vodka shots and having a girls' night, and she'd get a call from Hawkeye, saying he's off on another mission to whatever city, telling her it wouldn't hurt to have someone else along to watch his back, but it would end before the audience sees if she decides to join him or not.
Plus, I want a scene where she tortures someone.
Wow, that turned out a lot more involved than I expected. I wasn't aware I even had an opinion on the subject.
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I could not disagree more about the torture. Torture is extremely unreliable and is a tool that is utterly beneath Natasha Romanoff. Natasha has a billion more reliable ways of gathering information, and most of which involve making people think SHE is the vulnerable, in-peril person, or that she is on their side. Which is about a thousand times more badass and more ethical than ripping someone’s fingernails out.