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Cheer Up, Emo Kid (Or, It's A Family Affair)
I love it when I'm wondering about some element of a story - in this case, who polices Konoha - and I get an answer almost right away.
I think the idea of Sasuke's clan being the ones who were supposed to police the town and the other ninjas was nicely apropos, and surprisingly enough, I now have a lot of sympathy for Sasuke.
He's still making blindingly bad decisions, and ignoring all the ropes people are throwing him, but I adored how you could see Sasuke's father screwing up Itachi who screws up Sasuke, who goes on to think that his only real option for defeating his brother is to join Orchimaru.
(And he might not be wrong - if you set aside all moral and emotional considerations, chasing after the power being offered him is a clever move. It's not smart, but it's clever. Sasuke just has no fucking idea of what he's losing by doing so.)
Also, Sasuke learning how to make those fireballs, with his puffed out cheeks and little flash of belly button was just about the most adorable thing ever.
The Naruto vs Sasuke fight was very cool, and I loved the headband motif. Sasuke's line about being "more special than you" almost made me do a spit take, it was so hilariously lol-tastic.
I know how many slashers adore Sasuke/Naruto, and I usually don't use this argument, because I'm honest enough to know that if the genders were different, say if Gojyo was a girl, I'd be over Gojyo/Hakkai like white on rice, but this time, I have to:
Why does everything reduce to sex?
By which I mean, I kind of feel that if you watched that fight between Sasuke and Naruto and thought that the subtext was "I wanna get into his pants," I think you missed the point.
Look at the way that the characters interact: when they're interested in someone romantically, they are not subtle about it at all. We all know that Sakura is pinning after Sasuke, and Naruto is pinning after Sakura, and Hinata is pinning after Naruto, and in the case of the first two, they are fucking BLATANT about their affections.
There is no room for confusion about that. And when Sakura starts to think fondly of and respect Naruto, she treats him like a brother or friend - none of the blushing, subservant way she treats Sasuke.
We don't know how Sasuke acts when he is actually is crushing on someone, but look at how he acts with his brother: He wants attention, wants to be as good as/better then, and then he wants to kill his brother.
That is almost the same emotional arc as Sasuke's relationship with Naruto, with the exception that Naruto is the one striving for attention and to be as good as/better than, and Sasuke is the one not giving him attention.
My point is, Sasuke's main relationship are all fraternal, and Naruto explicitly labels his relationship with Sasuke in familial terms. (And wondering if being with Iruka was like being with a father made me wibble.)
In other news, I loved Temari's conversation with Shikamaru in the hospital (though I wish either Neji or Choiji or Kiba would have died, simply because everyone making it out alive stretched my sense of credibility.) Poor Shikimaru, getting tag-teamed by both is father andhis girlfriend Temari. I love how cold and ruthless she is, and I loved Nara-senior's comment about how you have to stick around to keep your friends safe.
Seeing Sakura come to Tsunade and ask for training was fantastic, as was Tsunade's conversation about the skills medic-nins have to have but I have to say, I was almost nauseous when I saw Sakua healing the fish. I know that l soon every female ninja sans Temari is going to be getting medic training, which makes me go, 'way the hell to ruin any chance of letting Sakura be special.' Sure, she ends up all badass from her training, but the fact that every other girl is going to be doing the same thing takes away any value. It would be completely different if they were picking medics based on, you know, personality or skill, but the mangaka totally isn't. I mean, Ino? I love the girl, but she (and Shikamaru) are the worst people to work in medicine in the whole manga. What about Choiji or Shino or Rock Lee? (Okay, he can't do the medical techniques so he's out, but you get my point, right?) The idea that Ino could be more valuable in medicine than in information gathering is ludicrous.
*sigh*
End rant.
So... Kakashi gaiden.
wee!Kakashi: most adorable thing ever Y/Y?
That was fantastic backstory for him.
And I have to say, Obito, Kakashi must have really liked you, because you're whole, 'Your father was a hero' *two panels pass* 'Your father was even lower scum!' was... not an argument that I would have listened to.
But I adore the whole 'sharingan as a gift' and when Kakashi is crying out of just that eye.
I totally need a wee!Kakashi icon.
Also, when do we learn that Kakashi was in ANBU and how Rin died? Because what Kakashi was wearing sort-of looked like an ANBU uniform, but I didn't see a tatto and it was never mentioned, but I thought this was around the time he was being sent out on assassination missions? Or was that after he mastered his chidori?
Speaking of, Sasuke has three 'comets' in his eye and Kakshi has two, correct? And do you think the Sharigan 'remembers' things it has learned? By which I mean, if it was passed on, does it/new person use jujitsu that had been memorized before, or does the new person have to relearn everything?
So now I'm on to Shippuuden! Where Sakura wears awesome boots and rivals Toph for earthbending, Temari is a jounin and Kakashi continues to be awesome!
I think the idea of Sasuke's clan being the ones who were supposed to police the town and the other ninjas was nicely apropos, and surprisingly enough, I now have a lot of sympathy for Sasuke.
He's still making blindingly bad decisions, and ignoring all the ropes people are throwing him, but I adored how you could see Sasuke's father screwing up Itachi who screws up Sasuke, who goes on to think that his only real option for defeating his brother is to join Orchimaru.
(And he might not be wrong - if you set aside all moral and emotional considerations, chasing after the power being offered him is a clever move. It's not smart, but it's clever. Sasuke just has no fucking idea of what he's losing by doing so.)
Also, Sasuke learning how to make those fireballs, with his puffed out cheeks and little flash of belly button was just about the most adorable thing ever.
The Naruto vs Sasuke fight was very cool, and I loved the headband motif. Sasuke's line about being "more special than you" almost made me do a spit take, it was so hilariously lol-tastic.
I know how many slashers adore Sasuke/Naruto, and I usually don't use this argument, because I'm honest enough to know that if the genders were different, say if Gojyo was a girl, I'd be over Gojyo/Hakkai like white on rice, but this time, I have to:
Why does everything reduce to sex?
By which I mean, I kind of feel that if you watched that fight between Sasuke and Naruto and thought that the subtext was "I wanna get into his pants," I think you missed the point.
Look at the way that the characters interact: when they're interested in someone romantically, they are not subtle about it at all. We all know that Sakura is pinning after Sasuke, and Naruto is pinning after Sakura, and Hinata is pinning after Naruto, and in the case of the first two, they are fucking BLATANT about their affections.
There is no room for confusion about that. And when Sakura starts to think fondly of and respect Naruto, she treats him like a brother or friend - none of the blushing, subservant way she treats Sasuke.
We don't know how Sasuke acts when he is actually is crushing on someone, but look at how he acts with his brother: He wants attention, wants to be as good as/better then, and then he wants to kill his brother.
That is almost the same emotional arc as Sasuke's relationship with Naruto, with the exception that Naruto is the one striving for attention and to be as good as/better than, and Sasuke is the one not giving him attention.
My point is, Sasuke's main relationship are all fraternal, and Naruto explicitly labels his relationship with Sasuke in familial terms. (And wondering if being with Iruka was like being with a father made me wibble.)
In other news, I loved Temari's conversation with Shikamaru in the hospital (though I wish either Neji or Choiji or Kiba would have died, simply because everyone making it out alive stretched my sense of credibility.) Poor Shikimaru, getting tag-teamed by both is father and
Seeing Sakura come to Tsunade and ask for training was fantastic, as was Tsunade's conversation about the skills medic-nins have to have but I have to say, I was almost nauseous when I saw Sakua healing the fish. I know that l soon every female ninja sans Temari is going to be getting medic training, which makes me go, 'way the hell to ruin any chance of letting Sakura be special.' Sure, she ends up all badass from her training, but the fact that every other girl is going to be doing the same thing takes away any value. It would be completely different if they were picking medics based on, you know, personality or skill, but the mangaka totally isn't. I mean, Ino? I love the girl, but she (and Shikamaru) are the worst people to work in medicine in the whole manga. What about Choiji or Shino or Rock Lee? (Okay, he can't do the medical techniques so he's out, but you get my point, right?) The idea that Ino could be more valuable in medicine than in information gathering is ludicrous.
*sigh*
End rant.
So... Kakashi gaiden.
wee!Kakashi: most adorable thing ever Y/Y?
That was fantastic backstory for him.
And I have to say, Obito, Kakashi must have really liked you, because you're whole, 'Your father was a hero' *two panels pass* 'Your father was even lower scum!' was... not an argument that I would have listened to.
But I adore the whole 'sharingan as a gift' and when Kakashi is crying out of just that eye.
I totally need a wee!Kakashi icon.
Also, when do we learn that Kakashi was in ANBU and how Rin died? Because what Kakashi was wearing sort-of looked like an ANBU uniform, but I didn't see a tatto and it was never mentioned, but I thought this was around the time he was being sent out on assassination missions? Or was that after he mastered his chidori?
Speaking of, Sasuke has three 'comets' in his eye and Kakshi has two, correct? And do you think the Sharigan 'remembers' things it has learned? By which I mean, if it was passed on, does it/new person use jujitsu that had been memorized before, or does the new person have to relearn everything?
So now I'm on to Shippuuden! Where Sakura wears awesome boots and rivals Toph for earthbending, Temari is a jounin and Kakashi continues to be awesome!
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Oh I know. If, like we've seen with all the clans, there are lots of types of abilities in the family category, then presumably Ino should be able to know or learn a lot more psychic or body-control techniques. I was writing this fic for a while called The Mindwalker Ninja, way back before the time jump, where I had plans to over several years chronicle Ino's advancing medical techniques, and the resulting cost. I had her go against Shino in the chuunin exams, and after several distractions and set-up take psychic control of his insects to attack him. That puts her in a coma for two weeks, and when she wakes up her mental powers are strongers, as well as having her be the first person to take over the mind of a contracted animal as she would a human. Then, in the chapters I haven't written, I had planned for her and Naruto to be intimately involved in saving Sasuke from Orochimaru... basically Naruto does all this crazy illegal shit involving stolen techniques and dangerous stuff just, in plot terms, to get Ino to where Sasuke is, at the moment of transfer, and Ino piggybacks mentally and helps or facilitates the death of Orochimaru's mind, essentially killing him before Sasuke can be overtaken completely. That process is so mentally traumatic that she goes into a second coma and doesn't wake up for over a month. And this time when she wakes up, she hears everything. It's turned her into a full-blown telepath and the first one in several generations in her clan. It takes her a long, long time to learn to control it and to be sane and healthy again. (also, she gets involved in this really bizarre relationship with Sasuke as a result of the whole Orochimaru mental tag team thing, and they both end up cheating on their respective boyfriends/girlfriends because they've been inside each other's heads and can't get over it.) Ino's abilities have so much potential!
But even IF you wanted to take her a medical route, I'd turn Ino into a psychologist or an interrogation officer. Psychology for obvious reasons, and interrogation because it's so similar to psychology.
I did read a really interesting chapterfic once where Sakura gets apprenticed to the interrogation guy (with the scar on his face), and it nicel chronicles how she changes as a result of the training and how the way other people treat her changes as well, knowing what she's being taught to do.
Re: Rin
That seems to be the consensus. I wonder if that was something the mangaka said in an interview or something.
I've never heard anything-- it's just the most convenient answer. Sure she could have died anywhere in that 16 year period, but we already know a lot of people died with the Nine Tails, so it fits.
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That story sounds nicely twisted.
xI did read a really interesting chapterfic once where Sakura gets apprenticed to the interrogation guy (with the scar on his face), and it nicel chronicles how she changes as a result of the training and how the way other people treat her changes as well, knowing what she's being taught to do.
That sounds fascinating. Do you have a link?
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http://www.fanfiction.net/s/1790730/1/A_Golden_Gray_Mourning
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::sigh:: Oh, for the epic fics which I lost my outline... ::sigh:: I would have had fun writing that angry, bitter, spiteful, honest, wiser Sasuke, too...
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Particularly Sasuke/Ino. I like the idea of them, but only my fanon Sasuke and my fanon Ino. How depressing is that? I could seriously be into that pairing if only the mangaka had let Ino live up to her potential we saw in the first two arcs, and if only Sasuke was not quite so angry at Konoha right now. I do like this older Sasuke (except for his anger/idiocy being a plot device) generally better than the Sasuke that ran away, mostly because he's less annoying outside of the village.
But I can only see putting him with Ino if she's advanced to the point where he could take her seriously. She can probably never be better than him, but if her mental powers were a specific skill that she excelled at, that's a kind of individualism and power right there. (That is what he looked for in his own team--specific abilities.) Which is why it crushes me that Ino has this huge potential talent in the manga but all that happens is her doing low-level medic stuff. Blah! The psychic stuff is so much cooler. Plus, I love the idea of Ino getting better and better at mental techniques, thus getting better and better at reading people and possibly manipulating them, while it also helps her understand and mature, grow as a person. Some of her "vanity" washes away as she learns what people are really like inside, and she gets the insight that lets her understand and even accept someone with as much anger as Sasuke.
Plus, I like the idea of her liking him as a child for shallow, spiteful reasons that really have more to do with Sakura than with Sasuke himself, to actually having real feelings and understanding for him as an adult. Of course, the same argument could be made for Sakura and Sasuke, but I rather like Sakura with Naruto in canon and Kakashi in my head, so that's not happening any time soon.
But, like I said, that's my fanon mental universe. The real story is somewhat different, sadly. I've never even really looked for Ino/Sasuke fanfic. But I do like this fanart for cute genin factor. (http://suppai.deviantart.com/art/Stump-colored-28772030)