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Saturday, October 4th, 2008 12:53 pm
I am bored and should be doing school work but am truly in want of a distraction.

Talk to me, please.

Real life, fandom, questions you've always wanted to ask - it's all fair game.
Sunday, October 5th, 2008 05:47 am (UTC)
I can understand why you don't like it. To me, the awesome (Lust, Scar, the Roy-Winry-Ishbal details, Riza's backstory not being explained,) far outweighed that one character.

As for Rose making a better love interest... I've heard that before, but the fact that Ed really doesn't pay any attention to her... frankly, Ed's suckitude at dealing with Winry I attributed to this being emotionally fucked up, and not interested in someone else.
Sunday, October 5th, 2008 06:41 am (UTC)
It wasn't so much Rose the character (I like Rose in the manga and, as a character, am utterly indifferent to her in the anime, aside from my dislike of the arc) but the fact that much of the final arc revolved around a victim being victimized.

The rest comes don to personal preference. I prefer anime!Lust, but much prefer the manga's version of Ishbal and found the manga's dealing with the revelation of who killed Winry's parents much more moving. While I like Scar's ending in the anime, parts of the middle of his story annoyed me.

I don't think they made Ed interested in Rose. I think they wanted to, but couldn't find a way to work it in. Hence, Noa. But I think the attitude to Winry was the anime makers not liking her. I can handwave a lot of stuff, but that was an impression I got while watching it, before reading anyone else's comments on the anime that weren't favorable.

Honestly, though, for the most part, which pweople prefe seems to boil down to which they encountered first. The only exceptions I know of are a couple people who saw the anime first, but are more manga people in general, and a couple others who read the entire manga in a binge a while after seeing the anime.

Mostly, I'm just tired of the elitism on both sides ofthe "fence."
Edited 2008-10-05 06:46 am (UTC)
Sunday, October 5th, 2008 07:07 am (UTC)
Yeah, elitism just pisses everybody off. And did you read the manga first?
Sunday, October 5th, 2008 07:12 am (UTC)
I was at about vol 4-7. (Volume #s blend together for me) Just before the anime diverges completely. It's basically a case of I had problems as I watched, and once the manga moved past that, I learned that all those problems were created by the anime, and everything the anime did wrong for me, the manga did right, and then it did all kinds of things the anime never dreamed of. (But to be fair to the anime, the only future character they had was Kimbley, the least interesting of the characters to show up after they split, but also the only one who fit with their storyline.)

I figure both sides of the elitism will get 10 times as bad as it ever was (thankfully, I only looked into the fandom once it settled down) if they really do do a new anime. My main interest in that is seeing Ran Fan fight in animation.
Sunday, October 5th, 2008 11:27 pm (UTC)
Personally I saw the anime first, but didn't get that far into it and sort of lost interest. Then I binged madly on the manga at a later date and never looked back.
Monday, October 6th, 2008 12:47 am (UTC)
*nod*

That happens to me with anime a fair bit actually. (In fact, the main reason I didn't get into FMA for a long time is because the FMA anime trailers were obnoxious in the extreme, and the anime company who licensed it had non-ff-able previews on their DVDs.)

But still, continues the "exceptions to liking the one you "met" first better prefer the manga" trend.
Monday, October 6th, 2008 08:19 am (UTC)
I saw the anime first, then the manga. ^^ And I don't think the removal of Winry as a character was (at least consciously) because of a dislike for her character...I think it was a side effect of the way they chose to trim the plot for animation.

See, the manga is much more of an ensemble production. The military people are all pretty fleshed out, you have the Xingese characters and the entire Resembool crew, and there are a lot more characters in general. A major theme of the manga, in fact, is family and the way human beings create it around themselves, whether they're born to one or not.

The anime, on the other hand, chose a different thematic path. Instead of focusing on the wide web of human interconnectivity, they decided quite obviously to trim the cast and plot by prioritizing the Elrics' story more strongly and making it an Us Two Against The World story.

And to do that, all their strong connections outside the brother-bond had to go.

(The best simple example of how they made this change is the comparison of the two burning-Elric-home scenes. In the manga, they stand shoulder to shoulder with Pinako and Winry, who are aware of their decision and support them in their journey. In the anime, such support would soften the stark you're-all-I've-got theme they were gunning for, so the boys burn the house themselves and get out of Dodge, cutting their ties...and Pinako and Winry find the wreckage in shock the next day.)

So, yeah. Collateral damage in the pruning process included most of the military characters, most of the sideplots not directly pertaining to the boys, and the Resembool/Rush Valley crew...unfortunately including Winry.

So it's probably not specific anti-Winry sentiment. Doesn't mean I like it. :/
Monday, October 6th, 2008 04:30 pm (UTC)
Actually, sidelining everything else for the brother-brother thing (and the general changing of motivations) and too much "us against the world" is another of the overall issues I have with the anime.