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redbrunja ([personal profile] redbrunja) wrote2009-02-28 10:45 pm
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Gossip Girl 1x02

 Is it just me, or does Dan have no reason at all to be mad at Serena? I mean, he wasn't dating her, wasn't even friendly with her when he slept with Blair's boyfriend, and cares about none of the people who really got hurt.

I understand him being a little upset and disillusioned but dude, chill.

[identity profile] rabidline.livejournal.com 2009-03-01 06:51 am (UTC)(link)
You're watching Gossip Girl?

*looks around to see if the world has decided to do a cartwheel or something*

Dan is a douchebag. A really, really annoying judgmental douchebag- and it grew worse after that. No, really.

[identity profile] redbrunja.livejournal.com 2009-03-01 06:55 am (UTC)(link)
*blushes* Yes, I am.

But see, I really liked Dan when we first met him - that makes me sad.

[identity profile] rabidline.livejournal.com 2009-03-01 06:59 am (UTC)(link)
It's the guilty pleasure of all time, I assure you.

But see, I really liked Dan when we first met him - that makes me sad.

This. This is exactly the case with me too, because Dan- compared to Nate and Chuck, is an angel! A romantic, funny guy that came from the other side that you can't help to root for. And he dates a girl without seemingly trying to get in her pants!

*sighs*

Later, you'll see.

[identity profile] meganbmoore.livejournal.com 2009-03-01 07:07 am (UTC)(link)
As much as I regularly want to smack him (I'm only on ep 14 of S1) I'd say he's still a step above Nate and Chuck.

[identity profile] rabidline.livejournal.com 2009-03-01 07:17 am (UTC)(link)
Nate's nothing more than a log that has a pretty face whom all the girls ('cept Jenny) sleeps with. He's practically arm candy. And Chuck, well- if you're on ep 14 then he has come quite a way from being that rapist in Pilot, but pretty much a jackass all the way 'round.

At least Chuck knows he's a A-level bastard (and everyone expects him to be that way) but Dan. Oh, Dan. This is the case where I really want to defend the guy, but since I'm already on ep 17 S2, I can't.

He's the perfect example of The Nice Guy that kills you inside.

[identity profile] meganbmoore.livejournal.com 2009-03-01 07:23 am (UTC)(link)
But, thankfully, he's still no Duncan Kane or Jack whatever-it-is-from-Lost.

Chuck's a bastard and I don't particularly like him, but he is entertaining, and has an interesting dynamic with most of the cast.

In general, though, the female characters are pretty superior to the males, with the possible exceptions of Rufus and Erik. Rufus gives me hope that Dan will outgrow it once he matures a bit.

And while I'm somewhat-unwillingly on the Blair/Chuck boat (I went from it being one of my main interests before starting to not wanting it after the pilot to a reluctant but eager fan...) the overwhelming levels of lesyay make me giddy.

[identity profile] rabidline.livejournal.com 2009-03-01 07:30 am (UTC)(link)
Chuck's a bastard and I don't particularly like him, but he is entertaining, and has an interesting dynamic with most of the cast.

He is, in a word, entertaining. Ed Westwick is good in his role too- which adds up to his points.

Oh, wait until you see Rufus in S2. GG Girls >>>>>>>>>> Boys. Erik's the only one who's somewhat decent- and he plays for the other team.

*smiles* Blair/Serena anyone? That's practically an OTP better on so many levels than Dan/Serena. And no one can't resist Blair/Chuck- they're just ridiculously addictive.

[identity profile] meganbmoore.livejournal.com 2009-03-01 07:37 am (UTC)(link)
AIRPORT! Seriously, AIRPORT!!!!

I do give Dan credit for never even thinking that he can come before Blair when it come to Serena. He knows that he's permanently in second place there.

If Dan ever makes her choose between them, he'll come away very very sad. If he and Serena have kids, Blair will probably get to hold them first. And I love how he and Blair tolerate each other because the other is a necessary evil that comes ith their precious Serena. Though I'm convinced that Blair disinfects Serena every time she knows Serena's been around Dan.

[identity profile] rabidline.livejournal.com 2009-03-01 07:52 am (UTC)(link)
Ah, airport.

I also love the mutual understanding between Dan and Blair- they both love Serena, and both realize that in order to make Serena happy, they have to tolerate each other.

But Dan will have his moments- he loves Serena, loves her so much as this perfect, reforming girl from Upper East Side that he puts her on a pedestal, because she, unlike Blair/Chuck/Nate, is good, according to him.

That belief, is the start of his downfall.

[identity profile] redbrunja.livejournal.com 2009-03-01 08:47 am (UTC)(link)
That's kinda too bad.

[identity profile] meganbmoore.livejournal.com 2009-03-01 07:05 am (UTC)(link)
Very true. And, sadly, a trend with him.

[identity profile] redbrunja.livejournal.com 2009-03-01 08:47 am (UTC)(link)
*sad face*

i have a feeling dan is going to get a rude awakening when he goes out in the world and realizes jackass behavior doesn't come with an income floor.
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[identity profile] redbrunja.livejournal.com 2009-03-01 07:24 pm (UTC)(link)
WAY overboard.

[identity profile] yumi-maki.livejournal.com 2009-03-01 07:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Wow, you're watching GG now?

Honestly, most of the conflict in Dan and Serena's roundabout relationship makes little sense to me. They have arguments about things that have absolutely no importance. But don't worry - I don't think it's so frustrating in season 1, it's season 2 where they really start going in circles.

[identity profile] redbrunja.livejournal.com 2009-03-01 07:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes?

And what I often hear with these guilty pleasure shows is that the first season is the best.

[identity profile] yumi-maki.livejournal.com 2009-03-01 07:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, I've never really had a guilty pleasure show before so I can't say. Tbh, the plot tends to frustrate me but I keep watching it because I really like the music and the clothing, especially Blair's and the overall production of the show and the look - it's just really bright and pretty. And as someone who actually read the entire Gossip Girl series, I can honestly say that Leighton Meister is Blair in the flesh.

[identity profile] redbrunja.livejournal.com 2009-03-01 09:43 pm (UTC)(link)
The clothing is totally fab, especially Blair's. She's so adorably pretty.

Actually, I had a question about the Gossip Girl series - what pov are they written in? 1st, 3d, do the books jump around from character to character, what?

[identity profile] yumi-maki.livejournal.com 2009-03-02 01:26 am (UTC)(link)
She really is. I suddenly wish I still had an icon of her.

They're typically written in the third person with the occasional two page interlude every four or five chapters or so showing updates on Gossip Girl's website where she writes in the first person since it's her blog. Each chapter follows one character's plotline and the main characters are Blair, Serena, Nate, Dan and Vanessa with the occasional foray into Jenny's doings - until she got her spin off, that is.
The series following the original set of characters is complete now that they've graduated high school but the author, Cecily Von Ziegesar continued the series with a new set of characters - the new one's called Gossip Girl: The Carlyles. However these books are written by a ghostwriter and the tone's changed as a result - the new ones have more morality and a bit more depth to them. I read the first one and I got the second but I'm not sure if I'll continue - the new characters don't appeal to me and it just isn't as entertaining anymore.

[identity profile] redbrunja.livejournal.com 2009-03-02 02:53 am (UTC)(link)
Thanks for the info.

However these books are written by a ghostwriter and the tone's changed as a result - the new ones have more morality and a bit more depth to them.

I think trying to add morality and depth to a series called 'Gossip Girl' is pretty much doomed to failure.

[identity profile] cherryfruit.livejournal.com 2009-05-02 08:59 pm (UTC)(link)
*WAY LATE*!

Well, with Book!Dan, he's ridiculously weird and judgemental about sex, almost to the point where he has a "women are either pure virgins or total whores" mindset. So, things like that offend them. TV!Dan is less extreme about things like that than Book!Dan though, as far as I know.

[identity profile] redbrunja.livejournal.com 2009-05-02 10:21 pm (UTC)(link)
*nods*

Dan even in the show, he's pretty judgmental about the rich (which I actually understand).