And I do tend to see Ino as having really screw ideas about consent - there was one fic I wrote with her and Karin where Ino is in her mind but Karin is still sort of there, and Ino 'masturbates' but has a line about how cutting Karin's hair would have crossed a line. So, yeah, I can easily see Ino being desensitize to consent.
I think I remember reading that fic - it was pretty hot too. I kinda like this take on Ino - it's dark and kind of sexy in a twisted way.
And you have a good point about what someone finds sexy not automatically conforming to what they believe politically or socially.
Yeah, what we (fandom in general, people in general) find sexy can be pretty screwed up if you look at it from a political / social standpoint - especially rape/noncon/forced seduction. I've seen interesting argument, re: noncon and how it fits into a feminist viewpoint: which is, is it really feminist to say to women that what turns them on is sick and screwed up and not really theirs but a product of their society? (Rape/noncon being said to be one of the most prevalent fantasies of women) Or does that just recall the days when nearly anything that turned women on was sick and wrong (except for the heterosexual babymakin').
On the other hand, I had a conversation with sour_water once, and she pointed out that it's still important to *talk* about these things; that if things like noncon or whatnot turn someone on, then by all means write about them - but don't just forget that things like this have implications and meanings beyond just "ooh, HAWT." Which is why conversations like this one are good things, I think.
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I think I remember reading that fic - it was pretty hot too. I kinda like this take on Ino - it's dark and kind of sexy in a twisted way.
And you have a good point about what someone finds sexy not automatically conforming to what they believe politically or socially.
Yeah, what we (fandom in general, people in general) find sexy can be pretty screwed up if you look at it from a political / social standpoint - especially rape/noncon/forced seduction. I've seen interesting argument, re: noncon and how it fits into a feminist viewpoint: which is, is it really feminist to say to women that what turns them on is sick and screwed up and not really theirs but a product of their society? (Rape/noncon being said to be one of the most prevalent fantasies of women) Or does that just recall the days when nearly anything that turned women on was sick and wrong (except for the heterosexual babymakin').
On the other hand, I had a conversation with