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Saturday, January 23rd, 2010 11:40 pm
So, my Fiction class on Friday sucked and was a complete waste of time for several reasons, but one of the things that happened was that I had two people comment on what I was reading (on positively, one simply asking what I was reading) and I ended up going into my  whole I-hate-people-talking-about-what I read spiel. Which I felt really bad about, because both of the people commenting had positive things to say. In fact, one of them had a kindle and he pulled it out as an I-read-trash-books-and-no-one-knows solidarity thing.

And actually, his kindle was very cool. It was very sleek and about the size of a hardcover book and I didn't have the same instinct to skim that I do on the computer. I didn't feel the same disconnect with the text that some people reported and I think the dictionary feature is nifty. Now, I still think it should be back-lit and I have issues with how close a kindle book is to a corporal book in price but that experience plus hearing a UN worker rave about being able to have a whole personal library in something the size of a hardback is winning me over.

Sunday, January 24th, 2010 07:51 am (UTC)
I hate classes when they feel like a waste of time.

Kindle's can definitely be practical. However, my problem with them is still that somebody can take your books away...and just in case the Firemen take over I want to be able to hide my stash in the floorboards.
Sunday, January 24th, 2010 08:24 am (UTC)
Damn good point.
Sunday, January 24th, 2010 08:17 am (UTC)
Ereaders are SO FUN. I would definitely say do your research regarding type, but they really, really, REALLY are awesome for people who read on the go. Especially fic. Oh, my GOD, THE FIC I've read on mine! I always hated sitting and reading novel-length stuff on the computer. With my reader, I can read it pretty much anywhere.

That being said, do yourself a favor and honestly think about whether or not you'd use it on a regular basis. If you don't think you will, go ahead and skip it. But if you think you might... DO IT.
Sunday, January 24th, 2010 08:23 am (UTC)
Oh, I'm not even CONSIDERING buying at this point.

I would need to be in a situation where a.) I did not have the space to carry books with me and b.) was ready to give up the physicality of buying books.

Otherwise, it's way too much of a big-ticket item for me to feel justified in buying one.
Sunday, January 24th, 2010 08:29 am (UTC)
*nod* That's fair. That being said I would honestly think about saving up for it if you think you'd use it. It was, honestly, the best $ I spent last year and is something that I absolutely use on a daily basis. Mind you, I have a Sony, and they just released a $200 model that's pretty great. :)

I totally like to compare it to an iPod or MP3 player: definitely a luxury item, but one that gets a lot of use from me. And, weirdly, I actually read more physical books now that I'm in the habit of reading.

STILL. Library: FREE.
Tuesday, January 26th, 2010 04:34 am (UTC)
STILL. Library: FREE.

That is a hard price to beat.

And I have a feeling that in a couple years, when I have a steady job and all the kinks have been ironed out of kindle, I'll probably pick one up.
Sunday, January 24th, 2010 04:14 pm (UTC)
Get one! Kindle has changed my life. The no back lighting feature means that it doesn't strain your eyes like a computer does. And yea, having your personal library with you at all times is wonderful.
Monday, January 25th, 2010 09:45 am (UTC)
I likely won't be getting one for a very, very long time. But I imagine having my personal library at my fingertips would be very nice.
Edited 2010-01-25 09:47 am (UTC)
Sunday, January 24th, 2010 08:47 pm (UTC)
I figure I'll wait for a few models down the road. Being as I just upgraded to Windows 7 and am now unable to read legally purchased books transfered from my old computer, I fear the DRM involved.

That, and the idea of dropping a few hundred bucks for the right to have to repurchase your personal library.
Monday, January 25th, 2010 09:41 am (UTC)
That, and the idea of dropping a few hundred bucks for the right to have to repurchase your personal library.

Yeah. I really think there should be a way to download books you already have for free.
Monday, January 25th, 2010 05:47 pm (UTC)
I know! I mean, you upgrade from CDs to an iPod, you can just rip all of 'em to your computer and play them in the new format. Kindle? You don't even have the option of hitting the friendly local used bookstore anymore.
Tuesday, January 26th, 2010 04:22 am (UTC)
Yep.

There are various free ways to get book on a kindle, however.
Tuesday, January 26th, 2010 05:36 am (UTC)
True, but they're still mostly either public domain or Corey Doctrow.

Which isn't really bad, but I'd still like it if there were some option to scan the barcode on the back of your book or something to load it onto your reader.
Wednesday, February 3rd, 2010 04:18 pm (UTC)
Oh, god, if that was a possibility, I would buy one tomorrow.
Monday, January 25th, 2010 04:13 am (UTC)
I am planning on buying one sometime down the line and putting things that are in the public domain on them to start. (I'm thinking specificially of the Gutenburg Project for some of the classics.) But yeah, I'm going to wait for a few more models to come out and then get one of the older ones - just waiting for the cost to go down.

And even if I get one, it will take almost an act of god for me to get rid of the books I already have and to stop buying paper books.

I will admit that I wasn't won over until my aunt showed me hers. It was so cool!
Monday, January 25th, 2010 06:21 am (UTC)
Oh, I am certainly waiting for the cost to fall and for there to be a few more generations of the tech.

I am just now considering the possibility of EVER owning one.

And even if I get one, it will take almost an act of god for me to get rid of the books I already have and to stop buying paper books.

So many people say the exact same thing.
Monday, January 25th, 2010 05:17 pm (UTC)
I've been reluctant to pick up any of the dedicated readers -- I'm not crazy about carrying around multiple single-purpose devices, especially ones this bulky and costly; but back in the days when I had a really long daily subway commute, I carried around a ton of e-books on a PalmOS PDA slightly smaller than a paperback, and it was WONDERFUL. I was carrying the device already for multiple reasons -- cellphones were dumber back then, so this PDA carried around a lot of memos, photos, scheduling alarms, electronic games, was used for mobile wireless email/browsing, etc. -- and it was WONDERFUL to always have dozens and dozens of books in my purse or coat pocket, without having to add any extra weight or bulk to the stuff I needed to carry around. No matter how much time I spent on the train, or waiting on the platform, there was always something to read -- and so long as it was already there at my fingertips, I also managed to get in a surprising amount of "found" reading time if I was stuck in a slow checkout line, waiting for a meeting to get started, etc. I don't drag the old PDA out as much these days as my phone's taken over most of those functions now, but I'd absolutely fire it up again if I were planning a trip, and would probably end up upgrading my cell to a fancier iPhone-type smart phone that can run reader apps if I wind up with a similar long daily transit commute again in the future. (And yes, if backlighting doesn't bother your eyes, it is EXTREMELY useful if you're ever trying to read in poor lighting conditions, like dimly-lit subway stations at night.)

I have no real interest in replacing my hardcopy library -- I like the sensual experience of having a book in my hands too much for that. But e-books can be a great supplement to physical copies -- there are some favorite titles where I'd keep multiple copies around, say a nice hardcover to enjoy at home and a used paperback that I didn't worry about throwing into a toteback to read on the go, or loan out to friends. Ebooks hit a similar niche for me -- there are a few things that I love so much that I absolutely would not mind paying for them again to get a portable, searchable copy. For the rest, though, I mostly kept my PDA filled up with free content -- there are TONS of out-of-copyright classic older texts available on Project Gutenberg and some academic sites, lots of authors/publishers make freebie copies available of older works to get new readers interested (and Amazon seems to have similar free specials available in its Kindle store), and I'd even snag a lot of favorite pieces of fanfic for rereading. If you're interested in more than just the latest big-name-author bestselling titles, it is not at all hard to fill up an electronic reader with hours and hours of reading without spending a dime.
Saturday, January 30th, 2010 10:00 am (UTC)
I hear you about not wanting another one item product. That said, since I'm always carrying around at least one book ANYWAY, except on the days when my bag is monsterously heavy, it wouldn't change much for me.

I always have a book for the precise reason of found time - I have no patience for waiting in line with nothing to do, waiting for the bus, waiting for class to start...

I have no real interest in replacing my hardcopy library -- I like the sensual experience of having a book in my hands too much for that.

So far, just about everyone I know has been like Kindle is great/terrible but it will NEVER replace hardcopy, which I find both expected and reassuring.