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Tuesday, July 27th, 2010 11:45 pm
5 Government Programs That Backfired Horrifically

Kittens Rescued By US Marines. (Yes, this is just as adorable as it sounds.)

Never Make Friends With People Who Have More Problems Than You, on disability, YA literature, and subtextual messages. If nothing else, read the summaries of the books in question. My favorite is: "A girl tries to help and understand her mom, a Holocaust survivor. But while the daughter is off losing your virginity, the mom has a psychotic flashback, murders the neighbor's child, and is shot by the cops." Suddenly Twilight... is still more terrible.

7 Terrifying Prehistoric Creatures (That Are Still Around Today). My favorite is the Goblin Shark. Yeah, you read that right.
Wednesday, July 28th, 2010 07:57 am (UTC)
Those Marines are almost as cute as the kittens. It's delightfully contrary to the stereotype.

7 Terrifying Prehistoric Creatures makes me go all Zoology-fangirl. I love stuff like that.

Never Make Friends With People Who Have More Problems Than You

On the surface, this one really pisses me off. I never really thought about it like that before, and the idea that disability or mental problems somehow render someone broken or that it will end poorly to befriend them is just...absolute fail and completely unfair to people who live with those things every day.

But the other way to look at this is that these stories raise attention for issues that kids may not have thought about before they started reading YA fiction. It's all very tragic, but at the same time I think many of the stories fitting into this category have an underlying message of friendships that arise in spite of these problems or differences.

I think the fact that it ends in tragedy is more a way to initiate teens into the idea that, no, life isn't always "happily ever after". That's still not right, since it programs people to think that serious situations will end in blood and guts. But let's face it- literature has a long history of only dealing with serious issues through the metaphor of character death, which provides an alternate explanation for why so many of these end horribly.

These stories seem to represent more the "death of innocence" with foundations in reaching beyond what your world view may be. I can see where the meta-er is coming from, but I'm tempted to think that the moral of these stories is less along the lines of "do not befriend people with problems" and instead is "people have problems". At least that's what I've always taken away from books like that.
Wednesday, July 28th, 2010 05:30 pm (UTC)
I think you're seeing the message that the author intends their books to have (which is a good thing!) but I think a lot of people felt that the books were projecting a more negative message than the author was aware of.

As for "death of innocence" stories... I have a problem with that genre as well, because 99% of the time the author seems to be telling the reader that to be a "true adult" you must give up such-and-such things you loved, which I never (as a child or as an adult) agreed with.
Wednesday, July 28th, 2010 05:45 pm (UTC)
I think you're seeing the message that the author intends their books to have (which is a good thing!) but I think a lot of people felt that the books were projecting a more negative message than the author was aware of.

Right, and the first thing you learn in English college classes (I don't know why they wait so late) is that analysis of literature sometimes involves taking it to levels the author did not originally intend. However, I did take away different things from stories like that. The meta does leave me curious as to how others would interpret those same stories and the effect it's had on them.

As for "death of innocence" stories... I have a problem with that genre as well, because 99% of the time the author seems to be telling the reader that to be a "true adult" you must give up such-and-such things you loved, which I never (as a child or as an adult) agreed with.

Ah. I actually never looked at it that way. I always thought of it more from a symbolic than a practical way. But I can see where you're coming from and the idea that you need to "leave behind childish things" has always grated against me.

However, that does provide a good explanation as to why I always groan when I find out we're reading another one in my English classes (because our reading curriculum, other than some genuinely awesome classics has pretty much just been about little boys losing their innocence). A Separate Peace. Catcher in the Rye. Etc.
Thursday, July 29th, 2010 10:55 pm (UTC)
The meta does leave me curious as to how others would interpret those same stories and the effect it's had on them.

Do you have specific stories in mind?

I always thought of it more from a symbolic than a practical way. But I can see where you're coming from and the idea that you need to "leave behind childish things" has always grated against me.

Even when looked at from a symbolic way, it drives me crazy. Especially since it was usually symbolic or noncorporeal things that they were being asked to give up.

(because our reading curriculum, other than some genuinely awesome classics has pretty much just been about little boys losing their innocence

Yep, yep. I will admit, Catcher In The Rye is one my to-do list, though.
Wednesday, July 28th, 2010 12:57 pm (UTC)
...Dammit, I got sucked into Cracked.com again.

Seriously, I've spent the last hour there, and I've opened ten new tabs. *flails* I only just now remembered that I got up to eat breakfast. That site is dangerous for ADHD people.
Wednesday, July 28th, 2010 05:26 pm (UTC)
It sounds like it. Personally, I'm realizing I need to spend more time of Cracked.com.
Wednesday, July 28th, 2010 07:09 pm (UTC)
It's one of those things where it could be 2 in the morning, but you would STILL open all the links at the end of the article that you just finished because they're all great and *SOB* it won't let me go.

Have this: http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-lovable-animals-you-didnt-know-are-secretly-terrifying/
Wednesday, July 28th, 2010 10:40 pm (UTC)
Exactly! I got up around seven, and I was on Cracked until noon, when I had to leave.

"One more article, then I'll eat breakfast." Half an hour and five articles later- "One more article, then I'll medicate."

It was worth it, though. (http://www.cracked.com/article_18568_the-5-greatest-books-with-psychotic-fanbases.html) xD
Thursday, July 29th, 2010 03:50 am (UTC)
*shudders* Must not click... can't go back to that place... NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO-
Friday, July 30th, 2010 07:43 am (UTC)
*reads*

That site is like crack!
Friday, July 30th, 2010 12:47 am (UTC)
That is awesome. That fawn with fangs? Epic.
Wednesday, July 28th, 2010 03:08 pm (UTC)
AUGHHH THOSE KITTENS ARE ADORABLE. That's just too sweet <3

OMFG thanks so much for sharing that LJ discussion. Glad to know there are others that suffered at the hands of WTF NEVER HELP ANYONE EVER books.
Wednesday, July 28th, 2010 05:26 pm (UTC)
Oh, you are certainly not the only one. I learned early on NEVER to read books with horses in them, unless I was reading "The Saddle Club." And even that had a first couple of books with the tragic death of a horse.
Wednesday, July 28th, 2010 04:08 pm (UTC)
Dude, I had no idea how horrifying lampreys were until this moment.

I've read plenty of horrific YA with questionable messages, but I seem to have escaped that particular genre. Those book descriptions are... special.
Wednesday, July 28th, 2010 05:25 pm (UTC)
Horrifying... yet AWESOME.

I've read plenty of horrific YA with questionable messages, but I seem to have escaped that particular genre. Those book descriptions are... special.

Aren't they just?
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Wednesday, July 28th, 2010 05:24 pm (UTC)
Will do.
Wednesday, July 28th, 2010 08:27 pm (UTC)
Aaaahhhh I love cracked.com. I get sucked in about once a month and spend hours on the site and then vow not to go back for a while. :p
Friday, July 30th, 2010 07:48 am (UTC)
*sigh*

Like I needed a new tvtropes.
Friday, July 30th, 2010 07:52 am (UTC)
I have surprisingly never gotten sucked into tvtropes... well, not really surprisingly because I always avoid it so that I won't get sucked in. Kind of like 4chan. I don't need to add that to my long list of nerd-ness.
Tuesday, August 3rd, 2010 07:30 am (UTC)
That shows good survival skills.
Wednesday, July 28th, 2010 09:59 pm (UTC)
Oooooh! Love the sharks, thanks for posting :)
Thursday, July 29th, 2010 04:35 am (UTC)
Never Make Friends With People Who Have More Problems Than You

You know what this made me think of? Sweet Valley High. Those nauseating, perfect size-six, California-blond Wakefield twins. I remember one of Elizabeth's friends was in a plane crash, and confined to a wheelchair. All the doctors said the chick could walk, but was...I don't know...repressed. So Elizabeth faked a child drowning in a backyard pool, and the friend suddenly walked again. Gag me.
Friday, July 30th, 2010 07:42 am (UTC)
It is EXACTLY like that and oh my god, what a manipulative little bitch!