EDIT: I was thinking about this, though, isn't it illegal for the US government to sign of on a treaty that is contrary to the Constitution? Not to say that this treaty would necessarily be contrary to the Constitution, but if it was, then wouldn't it be illegal for the US government to join?
Yechhhh. "/ I hate seeing stuff like this. It just reminds me of Six Apart and when stuff started disappearing from LJ. Except now we can be charged with infringement. Ugh.
Although, as an aside, I think it would be kind of funny if fanfic were made illegal and we were all turned into hardened criminals - and have been for several years. And suddenly the fanfic gangs would rise from the normal populace shouting battle cries of their favorite pairings and parading revolution through the streets. But that's only because I'm really a revolutionist at heart~<3
However, it's good to know that the EU got butthurt when France tried to coerce everyone into more internet supervision - so there's some comfort there - and that enforcing this sort of thing, if it did pass, probably wouldn't be worth the money they're putting into it. Law is pretty worthless without enforcement.
It'd certainly be a way for all the fandoms to come together and fight for a common good. I could see it. Especially all those real hardcore fans. I've seen some scary fights go on between fandoms. Can you imagine how scary it would be for all the fandoms to direct their anger, normally directed at each other, toward a common enemy.
It would be the mightiest, smartest, most surprising army in the world. I mean. Seriously. Fandom's pulled off some pretty amazing feats, contributed to a ton of causes, and is capable of a lot of things. I mean, I know everyone jokes about fandom like "oh hah hah, so you like to see two men together? Tee hee hee. You're so cute." But seriously. Fandom is huge. Fandom is everywhere. People in entirely different countries from where we live interact in fandom, people come from an amazing variety of backgrounds, from the street, to college, to academia, to political, to nearly every background in the world. And we're all capable of so much - we've got lawyers and academics and scientists and political reformers. We've got people who can raise money for funds for Haitii, we've got people who donate donate donate, we've got people ready to go into the fray, we've got smart people prepared to argue the legalese.
I mean, I'd be one of the first to go out and protest and start underground software and start an underground internet movement, but I don't think it's necessary until it's necessary.
And I don't mean to say all this like I predict some big revolution to happen if this does come to pass, what I mean is that... there are so many different kinds of people in fandom with so many different kinds of jobs and skills that what people contribute... well... everyone is always underestimating the power of fandom and that's why. It's because fandom is underestimated that we have so much power. And because there are a lot of us.
I don't think they could ever honestly stop fanfic from happening, either, or stop people from writing or sharing their Harry Potter fics, or their slash, or their genfic, or their next generation stories. There are just some things that, once set in motion, are too big to stop. There are some things that can't be stopped.
That and enforcing this would be impossible. If your fanfic site goes down, another revenue will pop up, get money from ads, and go on and on and on. Good luck getting the money out of this economy and good luck going to court. Considering how many courts are already abused by ambulance chasers and drug charges? And then what? Put us in %20 overpopulated jails?
No. If anything, fandom is more like prohibition, or banning porn.
It'd be like banning oxygen, or pissing, or rain. Fandom, fanfic... it's too big to stop.
...And it's pretty dumb to even try.
The rest of this ACTA thing? I can't see it going through either. I mean, my first reaction is RAGE REBEL REVOLUTION! But then I calm down a little after and say, "Well, EU probably doesn't like this, Congress doesn't know what day of the week it is to care about Internet SUPERHEROES, and who on earth would arrest a fanficcer when they can arrest a murderer?"
This turned out to be a much bigger, much more serious comment than I was originally going for. It was supposed to be "HURR HURR FANDOM ARMIE :D!!"
Seriously. Recently Avatar the Last Airbender fandom mutually bonded over hatred for the movie and it was so AWESOME. Everyone was directing all their hate at Shyamalan and the movie... and then a new series was announced at SDCC and the creators said one of the characters was a baby from a pairing from the original series and everyone started hating each other again.
I can't even imagine the level of hate that would come from all fandoms if anything/anyone tried to outlaw fanfiction.
Although, as an aside, I think it would be kind of funny if fanfic were made illegal and we were all turned into hardened criminals - and have been for several years. And suddenly the fanfic gangs would rise from the normal populace shouting battle cries of their favorite pairings and parading revolution through the streets. But that's only because I'm really a revolutionist at heart~<3
ew so not in a mood to read real life stuff (mind is in Panem) but the just of this is that they want to make it illeagal for people to write/post/share fanfic/fanart? i did open the google reload page though.
Oh yes, i am so sure of that. All the districts are so isolated I'm sure that people who have internet/something like it in the capital would have it super super restricted.
I would be shocked (and horrified) if this got ratified by the US, since it violates the Constitution. I really hope it just stays in the planning stages, and never gets ratified.
Hey, you never know. Perhaps you writing about X character fucking Y character in a multiple number of positions will prevent global catastrophe by setting the would-be catastrophe causing people's panties to burst into flames.
Well, this is a whole parcel of fucked up. Ditto on the outrage of medication restrictions. Also, Do Not Want people stalking my internet behavior, thanks. That shit's personal.
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http://vangirl.dreamwidth.org/75149.html?format=light
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http://vangirl.dreamwidth.org/75149.html?format=light
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Thought you'd appreciate this, though.
http://www.jim-butcher.com/news/000354.php
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EDIT: I was thinking about this, though, isn't it illegal for the US government to sign of on a treaty that is contrary to the Constitution? Not to say that this treaty would necessarily be contrary to the Constitution, but if it was, then wouldn't it be illegal for the US government to join?
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This is ridiculous.
-Kowareta
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I hate seeing stuff like this. It just reminds me of Six Apart and when stuff started disappearing from LJ. Except now we can be charged with infringement. Ugh.
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However, it's good to know that the EU got butthurt when France tried to coerce everyone into more internet supervision - so there's some comfort there - and that enforcing this sort of thing, if it did pass, probably wouldn't be worth the money they're putting into it. Law is pretty worthless without enforcement.
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It'd certainly be a way for all the fandoms to come together and fight for a common good. I could see it. Especially all those real hardcore fans. I've seen some scary fights go on between fandoms. Can you imagine how scary it would be for all the fandoms to direct their anger, normally directed at each other, toward a common enemy.
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I mean, I'd be one of the first to go out and protest and start underground software and start an underground internet movement, but I don't think it's necessary until it's necessary.
And I don't mean to say all this like I predict some big revolution to happen if this does come to pass, what I mean is that... there are so many different kinds of people in fandom with so many different kinds of jobs and skills that what people contribute... well... everyone is always underestimating the power of fandom and that's why. It's because fandom is underestimated that we have so much power. And because there are a lot of us.
I don't think they could ever honestly stop fanfic from happening, either, or stop people from writing or sharing their Harry Potter fics, or their slash, or their genfic, or their next generation stories. There are just some things that, once set in motion, are too big to stop. There are some things that can't be stopped.
That and enforcing this would be impossible. If your fanfic site goes down, another revenue will pop up, get money from ads, and go on and on and on. Good luck getting the money out of this economy and good luck going to court. Considering how many courts are already abused by ambulance chasers and drug charges? And then what? Put us in %20 overpopulated jails?
No. If anything, fandom is more like prohibition, or banning porn.
It'd be like banning oxygen, or pissing, or rain. Fandom, fanfic... it's too big to stop.
...And it's pretty dumb to even try.
The rest of this ACTA thing? I can't see it going through either. I mean, my first reaction is RAGE REBEL REVOLUTION! But then I calm down a little after and say, "Well, EU probably doesn't like this, Congress doesn't know what day of the week it is to care about Internet SUPERHEROES, and who on earth would arrest a fanficcer when they can arrest a murderer?"
This turned out to be a much bigger, much more serious comment than I was originally going for. It was supposed to be "HURR HURR FANDOM ARMIE :D!!"
But I'm there. And fandom's too big to stop.
-Kowareta
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I can't even imagine the level of hate that would come from all fandoms if anything/anyone tried to outlaw fanfiction.
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Vive la revolution!
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so not in a mood to read real life stuff (mind is in Panem)
but the just of this is that they want to make it illeagal for people to write/post/share fanfic/fanart?
i did open the google reload page though.
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All the districts are so isolated I'm sure that people who have internet/something like it in the capital would have it super super restricted.
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I would be shocked (and horrified) if this got ratified by the US, since it violates the Constitution. I really hope it just stays in the planning stages, and never gets ratified.
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Seriously, that's all I need to say about it. Fuck that shit side ways
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"Oops, need to confiscate your laptop. BRB."
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Trufax, yo.
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But thanks for the link and the heads-up.
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Same here. I was like 'oh, something is threatening fandom, ho-hum - what the fuck preventing medicine to go to third-world countries?!?!?!'
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