redbrunja: (tvd | je ne sais quoi)
redbrunja ([personal profile] redbrunja) wrote2010-09-24 04:20 am

Multi-Fandom Cocktail Party!

–I finished The Battle of the Labyrinth. And I honestly don't know who I ship more: Percy/Annabeth or Annabeth/Luke.

–I watched the premier of Glee, to which my main reaction was: why am I still watching this show? Also, have a gif:



Quinn and the new football coach were basically the only things worth watching this episode. FYI, my hate for Will is growing and I want to bang my head against the desk due to the epic fail of Rachel/Finn.

–HIMYM was enjoyable, if not earth shattering. Yeah, the writers are clearly being total cock-teases about us meeting the mother, but you know, I expect and have accepted that, so I can enjoy other things about the episode like:

a.) the OC's Summer getting in a happy, successful (and HOT) lesbian relationship.

b.) "Robin, seriously, I love you, but it's like you have squiggly, cartoon odor lines coming off you."

I found Robin and Barney's back and forth adorable. This is how I like them best, when they're bros with a side of subtext.

–Community was fun, especially once the first, second-hand-embarrassing third of the episode was over. I cannot express how glad I am that this didn't lead into an extended version of 'let's crush Annie's heart' OR 'ha ha, let's throw metaphoric pig's blood on Britta,' and I'm hoping that Jeff/Annie will continue to be one or two shippy episodes per season. Also, I'm quite impressed that a.) they went with Britta just getting caught up in the competition and b.) they went somewhere I have yet to see fanfic do, in all the dozens of post-Pascal's Triangle Revisited fics I've read. Also, most unsexy kiss ever.

–And now, my vampiric love and favorite show of the entire year (summer or winter season, take your pick), The Vampire Diaries:

Oh my fucking god, Elena clearly has taken tips from Princess Leia on fuck-you kisses. I mean when she just laid that one on Stefan right in front of Damon.... and it just went on and on. So hot, so bitchy, so awesome. Katherine would be proud.

I'm not thrilled with Caroline's new, heavy black eyeliner but her and Stefan's interactions are choice. (HE'S THE BEST VAMP!DADDY EVER, OMG. Seriously, Bill, you should be taking lessons from this boy.)

Now, I can already tell that Bonnie is going to get hated on for her behavior in this episode which I loved. Not because I enjoyed seeing her be so "witchy" to her friend, but because I think that it's wonderfully in-character for Bonnie to be unable to see past 'vampire' to 'best friend' in any real way. First, I respect that Bonnie is holding her anti-vamp line (and she has a point. Caroline has been a vampire for, what, two days? And she's already killed someone). Secondly, on a narrative level, it's really, really interesting to have Bonnie in a position of opposition to Elena and her vampire boyfriends and now Bonnie's BF Caoline. Oh, show, I love you so hardcore.

Ooooooh, werewolves that look like werewolves! So awesome! ...now, if only they weren't connected with the Lockwoods...

Alaric's hair is poofy and dumb. Jenna's jewelry is over the top and ugly.

And finally, [livejournal.com profile] topaquity ? I don't care what Elena said, there is no fucking way that this is the end of Damon/Elena. IMHO,, this episode could only have been more shippy on the Damon/Elena front if they had made out. To quote Katherine: "That sounds like the beginning of a love story, not the end." Plus, have you seen EVERY SINGLE PROMO PICTURE FOR THIS SHOW? It is all about the love triangle. There is no way that we go through a season of them becoming friends, have Damon fall for Elena, have Elena's doppleganger show up and make out with Damon while pretending to be Elena, have him kill her brother, have him admit he tried to kill her brother, have her say 'it's over' and then have Damon gracefully step back OR have Elena be like 'I hate you, go away' for however many season this show has left. It's just not going to happen.

*passes out mimosas and canapes*

[identity profile] luna301.livejournal.com 2010-09-24 11:58 am (UTC)(link)
"I don't care what Elena said, there is no fucking way that this is the end of Damon/Elena. IMHO,, this episode could only have been more shippy on the Damon/Elena front if they had made out."

This x50000. Seriously, I don't know how anyone could view this episode as anything other than a big ol' D/E shipfest. Actually, I think that goes for the season premiere as well. It all screams "WATCH WHILE WE SET UP D/E AND SEND THEM DOWN THE EPIC LOVE PATH!!"

I think even non-shippers can see that, it's so obvious.

As for Stefan and Caroline, I'm just going to copy paste what I said on my journal. They are the single most bestest, adorablest, genuinely intriguingest dynamic that the writers have ever put together. :D

[identity profile] redbrunja.livejournal.com 2010-09-24 12:03 pm (UTC)(link)
I think even non-shippers can see that, it's so obvious.

Agreed. I can see not LIKING where the writers are going (and one thing I didn't put into my post is that I think Stefan/Elena is CLEARLY the endgame ship), but for all the amazing things TVD does, I do not think it's going to break the bigger tropes/cliches that it's working with. Which means that I'd bet money that we will see more D/E and they will come to a friendship with hints of more, but that Stefan is going to be the person she ends the series with.

As for Stefan and Caroline, I'm just going to copy paste what I said on my journal. They are the single most bestest, adorablest, genuinely intriguingest dynamic that the writers have ever put together. :D

They are adorable! I so want her to be the new Lexie.

[identity profile] luna301.livejournal.com 2010-09-24 12:11 pm (UTC)(link)
If I had to predict right now, I'd say that S/E is endgame. Not because I ship it (though I don't dislike them either), but because TV shows rarely end with anything other than the pre-destined couple. Still, this is a Kevin Williamson show and Dawson's Creek ended with Joey/Pacey instead of the "soulmates" Joey and Dawson, so who knows?

[identity profile] redbrunja.livejournal.com 2010-09-24 12:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Agreed.

Still, this is a Kevin Williamson show and Dawson's Creek ended with Joey/Pacey instead of the "soulmates" Joey and Dawson, so who knows?

You know, as I was typing up my comment, Joey/Pacey was the one exception to the expected pairings that I could think of. *ponders.*
ext_10182: Anzo-Berrega Desert (Katara/Zuko subtle kiss)

MY PREDICTION!

[identity profile] rashaka.livejournal.com 2010-09-26 08:40 am (UTC)(link)
I'm sort of a fatalist in that (right now) I want the show to end with Stefan dying to save a bus full of orphans with therapy kittens and (at the same time) across town Damon is dying to save Elena--who makes out with him as he dies while very kindly not mentioning that she wishes he were saving the orphans and therapy kittens so she could be making out with dying-Stefan instead.

Re: MY PREDICTION!

[identity profile] redbrunja.livejournal.com 2010-09-26 08:47 am (UTC)(link)
I love your sense of dramatic cruelty.
ext_10182: Anzo-Berrega Desert (Spuffy Kiss Pretty)

Re: MY PREDICTION!

[identity profile] rashaka.livejournal.com 2010-09-26 08:51 am (UTC)(link)
It's the best way I can imagine to have IC characters and also give us the makeout ending that I want.

*is possibly still bitter about the end of Chosen and never going to expect more from any finale ever*

Re: MY PREDICTION!

[identity profile] redbrunja.livejournal.com 2010-09-26 06:37 pm (UTC)(link)
So, just to make sure I'm clear, you want Damon/Elena makeouts but for Elena to still love Stefan?

[identity profile] fonsetorigo.livejournal.com 2010-09-24 12:31 pm (UTC)(link)
The only reason I ever watched Glee was to watch the Cheer leading squad coach stomp all over everyone. Always. It brought such joy to my heart.

[identity profile] redbrunja.livejournal.com 2010-09-26 01:57 am (UTC)(link)
I know a lot of people who adore Sue for that very reason.

[identity profile] fonsetorigo.livejournal.com 2010-09-26 01:12 pm (UTC)(link)
"My parents were Nazi hunters after the war... so they weren't around much. We tried to bleach my hair with chemicals lying around the house, you know... Napalm, Hydrochloric Acid..."

I needed to know nothing else <3
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[identity profile] jade-sabre-301.livejournal.com 2010-09-25 01:38 am (UTC)(link)
CATFIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGHT
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[identity profile] redbrunja.livejournal.com 2010-09-26 01:57 am (UTC)(link)
Catfight (a truly epic one) and Quinn is Capitan of the Cherrios again.

[identity profile] fairest1.livejournal.com 2010-09-24 03:00 pm (UTC)(link)
Look at it this way: No matter how horrible the other characters on Glee get, it will always have a ray of light when Sue comes in and insults them.

Though something that I wished had happened: Someone signed up for Glee who genuinely could not sing. With their 'No auditions needed' policy, how would they deal?

[identity profile] redbrunja.livejournal.com 2010-09-26 01:59 am (UTC)(link)
Someone signed up for Glee who genuinely could not sing. With their 'No auditions needed' policy, how would they deal?

I had that thought too. It's like 'one bad person could destroy what you're trying to do - do you NOT realize that?'

[identity profile] fairest1.livejournal.com 2010-09-26 02:18 am (UTC)(link)
I figure it'd end up with something like the other members uncovering the tone-deaf recruit's deep-rooted longing to be a foreign exchange student or something and working their keisters off to help make that happen. Effectively, no change, but still a way to address the concept.

[identity profile] redbrunja.livejournal.com 2010-09-26 08:09 am (UTC)(link)
That would make a GREAT episode.

[identity profile] fairest1.livejournal.com 2010-09-26 04:28 pm (UTC)(link)
I get why they wouldn't want to make them a regular character; the kickass musical numbers are pretty much the only reason I bother watching (well, that and Sue) but this is one of those things where you just want it to be acknowledged (like when Rachel was having a heart-to-heart with her mother in an empty auditorium and when they wanted to sing a duet the guy who played the piano was just there). If you hang a lampshade on your show's trope, attention is drawn away from it.

[identity profile] vega-of-lyre.livejournal.com 2010-09-24 03:09 pm (UTC)(link)
That kiss on VD was epic. So mean and perfect. It made Damon's comment to Elena at the end of the episode very apt, Elena definitely deserved it.

I <3 Caroline. She had so many great lines, and her and Stefan played off each other so well!

[identity profile] redbrunja.livejournal.com 2010-09-26 01:59 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I adored watching Caroline and Stefan's back and forth.
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[identity profile] 25lively.livejournal.com 2010-09-24 03:25 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree with everything you said about HIMYM.

Also, most unsexy kiss ever.
I think that honor goes to Jeff and the billiard's teacher. On topic, that kiss was hilarious. I think it's because they went tongues first, which never looks right, and then it looked like they were trying to swallow each other's faces whole.

I'm usually the first one to get second hand embarrassment, but I actually enjoyed the first third of the episode as well as the other thirds.

I'm glad that the love triangle is over for now. I'm with Abed - more adventures.

[identity profile] redbrunja.livejournal.com 2010-09-26 02:04 am (UTC)(link)
But the Jeff/Britta kiss was soooooooo long. (That's what he said.)

I'm glad that the love triangle is over for now. I'm with Abed - more adventures.

Agreed!

[identity profile] penny-lane-42.livejournal.com 2010-09-24 03:25 pm (UTC)(link)
I am no longer watching Glee, but I do miss Quinn. She's a badass. And Kurt.

I HATE Will. HATE HATE HATE. But if the Groff came back? I'd probably watch the show again, despite my hatred of most everything.

HIMYM was definitely better than it has been, but the whole "Robin is nasty" thing bothered me greatly.

I cannot express how glad I am that this didn't lead into an extended version of 'let's crush Annie's heart' OR 'ha ha, let's throw metaphoric pig's blood on Britta,'

OH AMEN.

but her and Stefan's interactions are choice. (HE'S THE BEST VAMP!DADDY EVER, OMG. Seriously, Bill, you should be taking lessons from this boy.)

Totally agreed. Their interaction was lovely. But she absolutely ripped my heart out when she broke up with Matt for his own good. OH OH OH MY HEART.

I love how consistent Bonnie's characterization is. I don't hate her at all, and I think her reactions have been perfectly understandable.

I was glad to see Alaric back (very glad), but yeah, his hair was bad.

I don't care what Elena said, there is no fucking way that this is the end of Damon/Elena. IMHO,, this episode could only have been more shippy on the Damon/Elena front if they had made out.

Total agreement. And when he took the arrow for her, my sister, who doesn't watch things fannishly at all, goes, "Oh! That was so sweet and romantic! I want them to be together!" Ha!

[identity profile] redbrunja.livejournal.com 2010-09-26 02:06 am (UTC)(link)
But if the Groff came back? I'd probably watch the show again, despite my hatred of most everything.

I am terribly sad that we're probably never going to see him again. He and Rachel were perfect for each other.

Total agreement. And when he took the arrow for her, my sister, who doesn't watch things fannishly at all, goes, "Oh! That was so sweet and romantic! I want them to be together!" Ha!

I love it when random bystanders support my ships!

[identity profile] penny-lane-42.livejournal.com 2010-09-26 02:08 am (UTC)(link)
I thought they were hilarious and awesome together. Rachel/Finn makes less than no sense.

Me, too! I was so surprised because she's pretty much all about the surface text when she watches TV, so I expected her to like Elena with Stefan. The random Damon/Elena love made my night!

[identity profile] redbrunja.livejournal.com 2010-09-29 02:19 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I'm trying not to hate Rachel/Finn right now... and it's really damn hard.

[identity profile] angel-2606.livejournal.com 2010-09-24 03:30 pm (UTC)(link)
I finished The Battle of the Labyrinth. And I honestly don't know who I ship more: Percy/Annabeth or Annabeth/Luke.

*grins* LOL, that's a bit understandable, given all the Annabeth/Luke undertones, etc. Though even with those being present, I still have to say that I shipped Percy/Annabeth from the very beginning. Those two are far too snarky, too cute, too "my mom and your dad hate each other so that kinda sorta means that we have to too but I don't think I hate you at all" kind of thing (Wow, that was long).

Just out of curiosity, what do you think of Luke/Thalia?

[identity profile] rosegilmore.livejournal.com 2010-09-24 07:45 pm (UTC)(link)
iawtc. lol

ps i love your icon

[identity profile] angel-2606.livejournal.com 2010-09-27 05:25 pm (UTC)(link)
:) Why, thank you! Although I only have 15 icons, this one is my top favorite of all of them at this point, and is thus my default.

Are you going to be getting The Lost Hero when it comes out in FIFTEEN DAYS?! *is excited*

[identity profile] rosegilmore.livejournal.com 2010-09-27 07:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Soo excited!!!!
And yes!! I (sadly) don't own any of the PJO books (yet) but I plan on getting The Lost Hero as soon as it comes out!! Yay for borders rewards discounts!! lol

[identity profile] angel-2606.livejournal.com 2010-09-27 08:35 pm (UTC)(link)
But you HAVE read the books, yes/no?

Borders rewards discounts are a fantastic thing! I just wish that there would be an opening book party. *sighs*

And that makes me very sad that you don't own any of the PJO books. I want to say that they're pretty cheap at Wal-Mart, only like $7 per book, which isn't bad at all.

[identity profile] rosegilmore.livejournal.com 2010-09-27 09:22 pm (UTC)(link)
YES!!! I've read them all! I just borrowed them from a friend!! LOL. I would look into buying them at Walmart, but I'd rather get them at a bookstore. I'm one of those annoying people that try and stay away from Walmart. haha

I know! That would be totally amazing if they had an opening book party!

I feel bad that I no longer have any ATLA icons! :((

[identity profile] redbrunja.livejournal.com 2010-09-24 09:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Though even with those being present, I still have to say that I shipped Percy/Annabeth from the very beginning.

Definitely. Honestly, I kind of ship them both, in different ways. And I love the conversation where they're finding an example of their parents working together so they can justify being friends. So adorable.

I don't have much of an opinion on Luke/Thalia. It's some of the same dynamics that I really like with Luke/Annabeth, but I feel less of a connection with Thalia and Thalia wasn't there right when Luke betrayed Team Olympus, so I feel that that it's less... immediate, if that makes sense.
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[identity profile] elrickeyblade.livejournal.com 2010-09-24 04:43 pm (UTC)(link)
To be honest, the Annabeth/Luke ship tease that annoyed me in Battle of the Labyrinth, if only because it made Annabeth seem so...immature when she was acting jealous over the Percy/Rachel ship tease. Seeing as how my introduction to the series was accidentally through the 3rd book first, then the 1st book, then on to the 4th and the 5th and finally the 2nd (yeah I know, weird sequence), this just made Annabeth one of my least favorite characters in the series. I really try to like her, and on some level I do, but something about her just grates at me, and I think it mostly had to do with Battle of the Labyrinth.

...But out of curiosity, wasn't Annabeth too young for Luke? o.o I thought she was twelve when he was 19 or 22, something like that...*doesn't remember*

[identity profile] redbrunja.livejournal.com 2010-09-24 09:31 pm (UTC)(link)
I really try to like her, and on some level I do, but something about her just grates at me, and I think it mostly had to do with Battle of the Labyrinth.

*nods*

I can see where that would happen, especially if you don't know her previous relationship with Percy and Luke.

...But out of curiosity, wasn't Annabeth too young for Luke? o.o I thought she was twelve when he was 19 or 22, something like that...*doesn't remember*

First of all, I am the WRONG person to ask about 'too young.' Secondly, I believe that she was 12 when he was 16 - so she's a little two young during the first book but is growing less so all the time.

[identity profile] meganbmoore.livejournal.com 2010-09-25 10:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Luke essentially raised Annabeth when they were being hunted by monsters when she was 6, trained her to fight, and was one of the very few constants in her life for years and years until he betrayed her and everything she cared about in the most devastating way possible. I'm not sure how having trouble figuring out her feelings there compares to getting distracted by a girl you've met twice. (Also, it's all but stated that the Annabeth/Percy/Rachel triangle is pretty much Aphrodite toying with them, what with her promising to throw obstacles in the path of Percy and Annabeth's true and epic love [in her head] and Rachel showing up immediately after that.)

[identity profile] redbrunja.livejournal.com 2010-09-25 11:55 pm (UTC)(link)
(Also, it's all but stated that the Annabeth/Percy/Rachel triangle is pretty much Aphrodite toying with them, what with her promising to throw obstacles in the path of Percy and Annabeth's true and epic love [in her head] and Rachel showing up immediately after that.)

*lightbulb*

That said, I really like Rachel, and I CRACKED UP when Aphrodite is like 'I like you. I'm going to make your love life traumatic! Because that is how I roll.'

[identity profile] elrickeyblade.livejournal.com 2010-09-27 02:14 pm (UTC)(link)
Don't get me wrong, I support Percy/Annabeth...it's just Annabeth as a character that I can't seem to like too much. I am seriously trying, and yet for some reason I can't. *shrugs* The points you make about her feelings being messed up are quite valid, however...
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[identity profile] shiegra.livejournal.com 2010-09-24 07:56 pm (UTC)(link)
I honestly don't see how they're going to salvage it if they -- thank god -- are actually having Elena hold him responsible for his actions. He tried to force himself on her and murdered her brother to punish her for saying 'no.' I mean, they could always go the route they did in the first season and mysteriously wipe her memory (see Elena giggling over Damon joking about abusing Caroline) but, well. That would be terrible writing. Though I suppose that's not surprising for this show.

I am looking forward to a 'fuck-you' kiss. I wish Stefan and Elena made out more even though they're in an established relationship now. *sigh*

[identity profile] redbrunja.livejournal.com 2010-09-24 08:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Here's the thing, though: I don't think they are going to hold Damon accountable to the level that he deserves. Sure, Elena isn't giving him an inch now but as I said in my post above, I highly, highly doubt that the writers are going to hold that status quo forever (or ever for very long). And I say this neutrally: this is what I predict will happen based on years of watching tv.

I wish Stefan and Elena made out more even though they're in an established relationship now. *sigh*

They really need more make-outs and sexy times.
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[identity profile] shiegra.livejournal.com 2010-09-24 09:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, after having watched more of the episode -- there was no point to having him take the arrow for her except to lay that road. Nothing in Vanessa's behaviour before or afterwards remotely fit the characterization of 'sees a mystery, tries to shoot it.'

[identity profile] redbrunja.livejournal.com 2010-09-24 09:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Exactly.
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[identity profile] redbrunja.livejournal.com 2010-09-26 02:06 am (UTC)(link)
I just rewatched and yes! That tongue is so creepy! So creepy.
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[identity profile] digthenym.livejournal.com 2010-09-24 11:43 pm (UTC)(link)
THIS KIND OF MADE MY LIFE:

Image (http://tinypic.com?ref=nq9wf7)

[identity profile] redbrunja.livejournal.com 2010-09-26 02:07 am (UTC)(link)
GO ANNIE.

[identity profile] mollivanders.livejournal.com 2010-09-25 03:25 am (UTC)(link)
*accepts a mimosa and toasts this post*

I just watched this week's TVD episode tonight and they really are taking their time with the Damon/Elena ship, which actually relieves me. It's a slow build, not all this unbearable chemistry than then goes POOF!

Alaric's hair is poofy and dumb. Jenna's jewelry is over the top and ugly.

I did not notice Alaric's hair but word on Jenna's jewelry. Also, I don't care about her at all right now. I used to, a little, last season but she's barely in the picture now except to be judgmental. Maybe next episode?

But basically yes to the Elena-taunt-kiss, yes to the wolves being actual wolves, yes to the Bonnie fierceness. It is nice to see a character take a hard line and stick to it, even when it's her best friend. I still love Caroline more with every vamp episode, but Bonnie's still in my good zone :)

As for Glee and Community... yeah, I'm not sure why I'm watching Glee anymore and Community was great for handling the issue of the finale really well. With the grossest kiss ever.

[identity profile] redbrunja.livejournal.com 2010-09-26 03:10 am (UTC)(link)
*clinks glass*

I just watched this week's TVD episode tonight and they really are taking their time with the Damon/Elena ship, which actually relieves me.

I always love it when writers know how to DEVELOP a relationship, not just keep it in status.

I still love Caroline more with every vamp episode, but Bonnie's still in my good zone :)

Same here.

As for Glee and Community... yeah, I'm not sure why I'm watching Glee anymore and Community was great for handling the issue of the finale really well. With the grossest kiss ever.

It truly was a terrible, terrible kiss.