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Wednesday, August 8th, 2012 11:06 pm
Joss Whedon to direct Avengers 2.

I cannot express how happy this makes me. Largely because his treatment of Natasha exceeded my wildest, wildest expectations and I would put money on that continuing.

BRB, SOBBING FROM HAPPINESS.
Thursday, August 9th, 2012 07:06 am (UTC)
Natasha's like a Russian form of Buffy. OF COURSE HE WANTS TO HER TO BE COOL.

I think if Joss could spend most of his life writing awesome, kick-ass women, he would. Unfortunately, I think that's why some of his shows got cancelled when they did. T_T; THE WORLD STILL IS IN IT'S "GIRLS HAVE COOTIES" FAZE. IT NEEDS TO GROW UP.
Thursday, August 9th, 2012 07:44 am (UTC)
Unfortunately, I think that's why some of his shows got cancelled when they did. T_T; THE WORLD STILL IS IN IT'S "GIRLS HAVE COOTIES" FAZE. IT NEEDS TO GROW UP.

To be fair, i don't think that's all of it - there were concept (and sometimes network) reasons for why Firefly and Dollhouse did so poorly, and frankly I don't know how Buffy and Angel can't be considered huge commercial and critical successes.
Edited 2012-08-09 07:46 am (UTC)
Thursday, August 9th, 2012 06:58 pm (UTC)
I think Firefly's tragedy was that it was five years too soon. People just weren't as much into genre fiction. If it had come after Battlestar Galactica and all these Marvel movies, it would have had a fighting chance. Instead, hospital dramas reigned anew.

I love the philosophy and ethics of identity that form the backbone of Dollhouse, but there was a huge giant hole in the boat right from the start: TV shows can't rely on a hero to develop a personality somewhere mid-season 2 as part of her personal journey. The protagonist has to be compelling from minute one. That's why Ahiru is the lead in Princess Tutu, instead of Mytho. BECAUSE MINDLESS BRAINWASHING VICTIMS WHO LACK EMOTIONS AND GET RAPED AS PART OF THEIR BRAINWASHING ARE NOT EXCITING LEADS. If Caroline had been the side character instead of the protagonist, we could have watched her growth from the side and had a more relatable lead. Like Dr. Fred as the morally compromised Doctor of the dolls, who has to navigate the conspiracy-ridden Dollhouse and protect her charges, and train up Echo, only to discover in season 2 that she herself was Whiskey.
Friday, August 10th, 2012 08:27 am (UTC)
People just weren't as much into genre fiction. If it had come after Battlestar Galactica and all these Marvel movies, it would have had a fighting chance. Instead, hospital dramas reigned anew.

I think you're right. If there had been a stronger trend of sci-fi shows doing well (besides Trek, the exception for most of the 90s), Fox might have not actively tried to kill Firefly.
Wednesday, August 22nd, 2012 05:10 am (UTC)
The protagonist has to be compelling from minute one. That's why Ahiru is the lead in Princess Tutu, instead of Mytho. BECAUSE MINDLESS BRAINWASHING VICTIMS WHO LACK EMOTIONS AND GET RAPED AS PART OF THEIR BRAINWASHING ARE NOT EXCITING LEADS.

For me it was not so much where Caroline started as how long Joss expected me to be invested in her without change. Like, if I had know the time frame between her being a pawn and her gaining agency (which should have been the length of a movie or the length of a miniseries), that's one thing. But asking me to just indefinitely hang out with Caroline while she has personalities of the week? No. That's one reason that Dollhouse always got SO MUCH BETTER when Joss thought he was about to get canceled.

If it had come after Battlestar Galactica and all these Marvel movies, it would have had a fighting chance.

I think you're right about that. Although Fox has a history of getting this kind of off the beaten path shows and then not actually wanting them.

Like Dr. Fred as the morally compromised Doctor of the dolls, who has to navigate the conspiracy-ridden Dollhouse and protect her charges, and train up Echo, only to discover in season 2 that she herself was Whiskey.

That would have been SO cool.
Thursday, August 9th, 2012 07:45 am (UTC)
For all things comic related you should check out comicbookmovie (http://www.comicbookmovie.com/) and comicbookresources (http://www.comicbookresources.com/). As for the Avengers 2 news, yup, it's legit. He'll also help create a tv show set in the Avengers universe. Here's to hoping that they're planning on going back to their previous idea of making a show with Bobbi Morse in it.
Thursday, August 9th, 2012 08:15 am (UTC)
I did a little happy dance when I heard about that.

I'm really interested to see if he's going to do an adaption of the Infinity Gauntlet storyline.
Thursday, August 9th, 2012 12:27 pm (UTC)
PLUS A TV-SHOW?! I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS ABOUT SO I'M AFRAID TO HAVE FEELINGS YET!
Thursday, August 9th, 2012 01:31 pm (UTC)
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And if he's going to be thus involved in the other tie-in movies? WE WILL HAVE BLACK WIDOW YET <3
Thursday, August 9th, 2012 02:45 pm (UTC)
I don't dare hope. (But I'm hoping anyway.)
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Thursday, August 9th, 2012 02:40 pm (UTC)
Fingers crossed!
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Monday, August 13th, 2012 09:25 pm (UTC)
WHAT?! Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
Thursday, August 16th, 2012 07:22 am (UTC)
*cries*
Monday, August 13th, 2012 09:25 pm (UTC)
FKLGKLFAPOIAWKNFAN:LJGA!!!!!