redbrunja: (the bourne legacy | you've done enough)
redbrunja ([personal profile] redbrunja) wrote2013-01-08 12:01 am

Baby Can't See Through All This Matter & Make-Up & Deja Vu

gacked from [livejournal.com profile] ever_neutral:

Please ask me questions about my OTPs in the comments! Any questions! All questions! Deep questions! Silly questions! Ship questions. (It doesn't even really have to be OTPs. Basically, anything you know I have ever shipped. And maybe even anything I haven't.)

[identity profile] phemyscira.livejournal.com 2013-02-03 06:28 pm (UTC)(link)
I like those tropes! I wish there were more 'good guy falls in love with villainous ladies' couples in the media and it makes me doubly sad that Blair didn't end up with Dan in Gossip Girl. The 'girl saves usually undeserving douchebag from damnation' trope is so over done and is never done the way that doesn't make my skin crawl.

I get what you mean when you say 'there's nothing guaranteed to make me ship something' because I've found through my own experiences that if two ships share a certain trope or theme, that doesn't necessarily guarantee that I'll ship them. A couple can be great on paper, but they can be executed poorly by the writers and I find that occurrence so fascinating.

[identity profile] redbrunja.livejournal.com 2013-03-08 08:00 am (UTC)(link)
I wish there were more 'good guy falls in love with villainous ladies' couples in the media and it makes me doubly sad that Blair didn't end up with Dan in Gossip Girl.

Same here! And I think a key factor is that a lot of stories don't let girls be actually bad. They're always slightly bitchy and then punished for it, while men can be antiheroes all damn day long.

[identity profile] phemyscira.livejournal.com 2013-03-08 02:34 pm (UTC)(link)
They're always slightly bitchy and then punished for it, while men can be antiheroes all damn day long.

Yes. At the moment, I can only think of three examples of badass evil women who don't fit under that category:

1) The character Meryl Streep plays in "The Devil Wears Prada" - I think her name is Miranda? I'm not sure if she fits under this category because she's not "evil" as much as she is pushy and the movie actually does go out of its way to make the audience understand why she's pushy.

2) Lady Eboshi from Princess Mononoke, although she doesn't reach the end of the movie totally unscathed.

3) Kushana from NausicaƤ of the Valley of the Wind.