"Don't We Have An App That Does This Boring Stuff For Us?"

[redbrunja]

MY EMOTIONS. MY EMOTIONS.



Okay, to start with, we had Aya telling Razer that she likes him just the way that he is. I can't even.

And the "seduction" scene was both incredibly creepy and entertaining as fuck. Poor Aya was just so confused! She's experimenting with a new glaze! RAZER WAS LOOMING.

The season is going to end on an epic kiss between them, isn't it? Oh god, it has to, I desperately want to see another version of the whole leaning scene again, because we've seen how they interact with each other physically before:



And when Razer's himself, there is a fluidity to their hugs/embraces that was totally missing when possessed!Razer turned Aya's head from one side to the other (that she let him, how robotic that motion was, was one of the things that made that scene so fucking creepy.)

Also, this episode reminded me that I really like Hal - he's fun and flippent and I loved his conversation with Aya regarding hormones! He was about to give her the birds and bees talk! LOLZ.

Also, I'm quite intrigued at the idea of a new, "bad" Lantern. I'm liking where that might be going.

But the ending killed me! He was so concerned he'd done something to her! Because the person you care about most is who you're afraid you've going to hurt when you've been possessed! And she thinks that he doesn't like her! (Understandable. But Razer, get on fixing that!)



via allisnow: a great article on Aya and Razer.

(In other new, Young Justice continues to be a half an hour each week of all the secondary characters I never cared about in the first place.)

Comments

[allisnow.livejournal.com]

I didn't think anything could give me more feels than last week, but this may have done it. Aya not wanting Razer to change. The way she catches herself ("I... all of us prefer you to remain unchanged." There was something just so HUMAN about that) and when she touches his hand and he pulls away and OH THE HEARTBREAK. And the last scene, where he's worried that he hurt her and she's not upset about how he acted when he was possessed because obviously that's not his fault but because of how he's been acting when he wasn't possessed because dammit that is his fault and he needs to get his shit together.

I have kind of a kink for possession stories and even though there was a lot here to cram into one episode, I thought they did it well. Sinestro isn't the out-and-out mustache-twirling bad guy he first seemed to be when he was possessed, but he's definitely an amoral creep, and I like the grayness of that.

As for THAT scene, people on tumblr (which seems to have a much larger Razer/Aya contingent than LJ) are already lecturing about how it was not meant to be 'shippy', that it was written to be creepy and was creepy and people should not be fangirling over it. (I saw the same type of lecturing after a particular Stargate: Atlantis episode.) And yes it was creepy and wrong and weird and from a shipping perspective it's still interesting to parse that scene which you can do without getting your rocks off about it.

[redbrunja.livejournal.com]

("I... all of us prefer you to remain unchanged." There was something just so HUMAN about that)

Very human! And very much what you say when you're in love.

And the last scene, where he's worried that he hurt her and she's not upset about how he acted when he was possessed because obviously that's not his fault but because of how he's been acting when he wasn't possessed because dammit that is his fault and he needs to get his shit together.

What killed me about that scene was that Aya DIDN'T seem particularly upset. She seemed calm, like she'd found the answer to a question. WAILS.

And yes it was creepy and wrong and weird and from a shipping perspective it's still interesting to parse that scene which you can do without getting your rocks off about it.

True. And EVEN if you're getting your rocks off on it... WHO CARES? As long as you're not saying, 'everything about that scene was totally okay' enjoy it! Who does that hurt?

[allisnow.livejournal.com]

What killed me about that scene was that Aya DIDN'T seem particularly upset. She seemed calm, like she'd found the answer to a question. WAILS.

I think we need the Star Sapphires to show up again and slap some sense into Razer.

True. And EVEN if you're getting your rocks off on it... WHO CARES? As long as you're not saying, 'everything about that scene was totally okay' enjoy it! Who does that hurt?

The feminist guardians of Tumblr, apparently ;)

Oh, and can I just say... Hal having The Talk (or at least a PG version of the beginning of The Talk) with Aya? O.M.G. I'd love to know what Hal and Kilowog think about the whole situation. I mean besides the fact that it's weird ;)

ETA: Oh good, I kind of thought YJ was snoresville too. I mean I've never been as invested in it as GL, even though I started watching it first and just picked up GL because sometimes it was still on when I tuned in for YJ. I think the biggest issue is that YJ just has too many damn characters. Same problem JL had when they warped it into JLU. Bleh, that still depresses me.)

[redbrunja.livejournal.com]

Oh, and can I just say... Hal having The Talk (or at least a PG version of the beginning of The Talk) with Aya? O.M.G. I'd love to know what Hal and Kilowog think about the whole situation. I mean besides the fact that it's weird ;)

Me too. Because, given Hal's readiness with the hormones convo, he's CLEARLY been thinking about this. Killiwog might be clueless about it, though.

True. And EVEN if you're getting your rocks off on it... WHO CARES? As long as you're not saying, 'everything about that scene was totally okay' enjoy it! Who does that hurt?

The feminist guardians of Tumblr, apparently ;)

But they're totally fine with what I, personally, felt was actually offensive, which was Aya FUCKING SERVING A FRUITY DRINK ON A TRAY, LIKE WHAT THE FUCK? AND THEN BEING HAL'S PORTER. AND STILL (AND FOREVER) BEING DRESSED IN A SPACE BIKINI, LIKE, WHY?


ETA: Oh good, I kind of thought YJ was snoresville too.

So boring. I feel like this entire season has been set-up with no payoff.

[allisnow.livejournal.com]

Me too. Because, given Hal's readiness with the hormones convo, he's CLEARLY been thinking about this.

It's kind of sad if Hal thinks it's all just hormones on Razer's part, though. Of course, Hal does think of him as a 'kid'.

The Space Bikini (nickname accepted) actually doesn't bother me a ton because, despite the fact that its obviously gratuitous on the animators' parts, everything that might push it past PG is covered up. Maybe it would bother me more if she wasn't a robot/construct. Maybe that's robot-ist of me. HOWEVER the fruity drink thing was a serious WTF. And put the gun in the closet your own damn self, Jordan (of course per the storyline she had to be alone so Creeper!Razer could get the gun. Whatevs.)

So boring. I feel like this entire season has been set-up with no payoff.

Yup. I usually appreciate a good story arc that builds on itself, but you have to throw the viewers some kind of bone WITHIN the episode or they're gonna get bored. We fangirls are a fickle bunch.

[redbrunja.livejournal.com]

It's kind of sad if Hal thinks it's all just hormones on Razer's part, though. Of course, Hal does think of him as a 'kid'.

I think it's pretty in character for Hal to think it's just lust... plus, I imagine that he might have some similar hang-ups and not think that Aya is reciprocating.

HOWEVER the fruity drink thing was a serious WTF. And put the gun in the closet your own damn self, Jordan (of course per the storyline she had to be alone so Creeper!Razer could get the gun. Whatevs.)

I think storing the gun wouldn't have bothered me so much if it hadn't happened right after the drink. Like what, Aya is your robot servant now?

Yup. I usually appreciate a good story arc that builds on itself, but you have to throw the viewers some kind of bone WITHIN the episode or they're gonna get bored. We fangirls are a fickle bunch.

I was thinking about this, and remember last season? How there were self-contained episodes that were super-satisfying on their own but moved the plot forward? We are getting NONE of those. I can't think of an episode this season that was actually satisfying. Even the second and third, where we find out why M'gann and Conner broke up and that they still care about each other, only works because we're already hugely invested in that relationship. (Or at least I WAS THEN.)

[allisnow.livejournal.com]

I think it's pretty in character for Hal to think it's just lust... plus, I imagine that he might have some similar hang-ups and not think that Aya is reciprocating.

In character... but still sad. Of course both he and Kilowog were there to see how they reacted to seeing each other in Blue Hope *has all the feelings all over again*

Like what, Aya is your robot servant now?

Right. Not cool, dude. Of course, there's no reason to think that Hal said, off screen, "Hey Aya, when Sinestro gets in why don't you bring him a drink?" I think it was played more for laughs when Kilowog drinks it and gives his line. But it still rankles *shrugs*

I was thinking about this, and remember last season?

I was kind of hit and miss with the show last year and to be honest my memory is a little spotty. I know I wasn't thrilled with the skipping forward in time and the addition of a slew of new characters (that is, if I'm remembering correctly what they did with the rebranding to YJ: Invasion). But it does seem that previously the stories were a lot more solid and had an actual emotional arc, rather than just a plot arc.

[redbrunja.livejournal.com]

But it does seem that previously the stories were a lot more solid and had an actual emotional arc, rather than just a plot arc.


They were. And there were a lot less characters to juggle, so there were actually emotional arcs that played out over multiple episodes, not just arcs that were hinted at by the writers (like there are currently).

[anat-astarte.livejournal.com]

Young Justice continues to be a half an hour each week of all the secondary characters I never cared about in the first place

This is mostly true, since is the parts of the ep I just saw that I liked best are where:
- Sportsmaster and Cheshire decide to take revenge independently of the Light's decision,
- Connor and Mr. Kent are interacting
- Savage and Black Manta are talking about the pain of parenthood, and Manta talks abot revenge against "that Martian witch"

Because anything, even little bits, of stuff related to Connor, M'Gann, Wally and Artemis are worth watching...

[redbrunja.livejournal.com]

*nods*

I'm actually considering stopping watching YJ, at least until like, the finale, when things will happen (I assume). Basically, YJ is just what I watch before I watch GL, and life is too short for that.

[phemyscira.livejournal.com]

(In other new, Young Justice continues to be a half an hour each week of all the secondary characters I never cared about in the first place.)

I'm glad I'm not the only one who is annoyed at this because it takes me half an hour to wait for an entire episode of YJ to load on livestream. I did not feel like that episode was worth the wait because although I love Blue Beetle, I MISS THE ORIGINAL CAST. I want to know what's going to happen to M'Gann and Conner and Kaldur and Artemis darn it and Zatanna barley gets any screen time anymore. And Impulse has practically replaced Wally and that sucks even though I like Impulse. ;-;

*cough*

I liked Sinestro as well! :) In the GLAS animated movie I didn't like the way he was handled. He was a bit 2-dimensional for me but I like the direction the show is going with his character.

And the "seduction" scene was both incredibly creepy and entertaining as fuck. Poor Aya was just so confused! She's experimenting with a new glaze! RAZER WAS LOOMING.

I know, right? I was sharing Aya's 'is he okay?' expression the entire time it was going on.

If they don't kiss or if Razer doesn't flirt with Aya again this season, I will DIE. Because I imagine that Razer's flirting would be 1) a lot less creepy than the alien assassin's attempt at seduction 2) hormone inducing even though he'd be acting like a dork the entire time.

[allisnow.livejournal.com]

Meep. Razer trying to flirt would be so adorkable and awkward and silly that I'm getting the giggles just thinking about it, and Aya would just be looking at him and then: "Oh yes. Hal Jordan spoke to me about 'hormones.'"

[phemyscira.livejournal.com]

RIGHT? I'd barely be able to keep composed if a guy like Razer flirted with me but Aya seems to handle these usually embarrassing situations very well. Props to her.

[redbrunja.livejournal.com]

I MISS THE ORIGINAL CAST.

Me too. So much.

I know, right? I was sharing Aya's 'is he okay?' expression the entire time it was going on.

If they don't kiss or if Razer doesn't flirt with Aya again this season, I will DIE. Because I imagine that Razer's flirting would be 1) a lot less creepy than the alien assassin's attempt at seduction 2) hormone inducing even though he'd be acting like a dork the entire time.

If we don't get an epic Aya/Razer kiss, I'm going to be super-annoyed.

[angel-2606.livejournal.com]

So even though this is definitely a Green Lantern post, you did make a small comment about YJ, so I'm commenting here.

I kinda want to hurt the writers because we didn't get a scene with M'Gann and Connor actually TALKING. talking about what she had done and how she feels terrible about it and her holding in the fact that she knows that Artemis is actually alive and that Kaldur isn't a traitor. Talking about the fact that abusing her powers is WHY Connor broke up with her in the first place, because they disagreed when it came to how she was using them to begin with, that he thought she should be far more careful with them and she thought he was being too overprotective.

*shakes head* I just.....gah. That moment would have been perfect. OH! And the only reason she wasn't talking to Lagoon Boy about it and couldn't? Because she CAN'T. Because she knows that he'll tell her it was okay, that it was an accident, that Kaldur somehow deserved what she did to him because he killed Artemis and/or because he's a traitor to their side.

Whereas Connor? Connor is going to be there for her to talk to, and he'll just sit and listen, but he won't tell her that what she did was okay, or right. He won't justify her actions, but he also won't brag about the fact that he was right either. And he'll take whatever she doles out because he knows that she needs it, that she needs to get it out. He's the only person that she CAN talk to and them not be judgmental, because he's already done it and split up with her because of it, because she refused to be more careful (that's what I got from it anyway).

I just need this scene in my life. Badly.

[redbrunja.livejournal.com]

*nods*

Agreed.

I have been really frustrated by the relationship changes and issues that the writers set up with L'gann and Conner and M'gann, and they the way that they avoided actually having Conner and M'gann face them; or only allowed discussion off screen.