Yeah, I basically did this two days ago, but it's different, it's character specific. Plus, I'm cleaning just about everything in the house, including my computer, but I think I have ants under my keyboard or behind my bed. Or both. *shudders*
1) Comment with one of my fandoms or a character or two from that fandom.
2) I'll answer with one or two of my unpopular opinions about that fandom or character.
1) Comment with one of my fandoms or a character or two from that fandom.
2) I'll answer with one or two of my unpopular opinions about that fandom or character.
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(will do back and forths if you want)
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2.) More attractive than Jack Sparrow, especially after the first movie.
3.) A better match for Elizabeth.
For you: Elizabeth Swann.
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1. Not a hussy, and not a Mary Sue.
2. Too good for Will or Jack. (kinda directly related to 1...)
3. Never had romantic feelings for Jack, just wanted to get to Will and was attracted to the freedom.
4. Would have been happy with Norrington if she'd never met Will.
5. Would have murdered Jack within 2 weeks. A month if they found the perfect combo of run, sex, and raids.
For you: Logan Echolls
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I've love more elaboration on #2... why isn't will quite good enough for her?
4.) Oh my god yes. Especially if he ended up taking her with him when he went off (lots of officers wives traveled with their husbands.)
5.) Now I'm picturing Sparrow desperately fingangling things so that she doesn't ever not have enough rum and action to keep his skin intact.
Logan:
1.) Isn't quite good enough for Veronica.
2.) Brought a lot of his problems on himself.
3.) Could me a much better person than he is if he got his head screwed on straight, and he's smart enough that he should know this.
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1. I wish more people shared our opinion of this.
2. I agree with but forgive 2, as a lot of it stems from being screwed since birth.
3. Agreed. I think though, that he's kinda scared to be a good person. Lets face it, the people he knows who are supposed to be good people, who actually are? KEITH. And...KEITH.
Next: Duncan Kane.
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Oh, word. I have the same thing with Katara. At this point, that girl could fly Zuko alive and then heal him back up, dropkick Aang off a cliff and smack her brother around, and I'd be like, 'she was totally in the right and they all loved it.'
Duncan:
1.) Just because Duncan was dull as dishwater doesn't mean that Teddy Dun is a bad actor.
2.) I think he loved his sister a little too much - it's a bit creepy that Veronica looks so much like Lilly, and with the real stuff that happened with the idea of Veronica literally being to him....
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I'd mention that only poor little Aang got the lethal treatment, there, but, well...he'd be fine(unless he was too busy watching the pieces of his poor little heart fall around him to remember this isn't really a problem for him.)
I think i'm glad I never looked into the VM fandom beyond my f-list. They're all far too mature and levelheaded to blame an actor. As much as I dislike Duncan, I thought Teddy Dunn did a great job, especially in season 1, where you never knew WHAT was in his head, or how sane/insane he was, and most of that take was him, not the script. I think there was definately a "little too much" in Duncan's love for Lilly, though not to the degree of incest, as I'm told some fans take it. I tink, though, that at least some of that was more Lilly in general. EVERYONE is amazingly hung up on her...Duncan, Logan, Weevil and Veronica all almost have her on a madonna-like pedestal, even though they all know better. I think she was just someone who hugely influenced everyone around her, especially those who needed someone. I also think that the whole "distant/uncaring parents/cheating father" thing had the opposite affect on them as it did on Logan and his sister...instead of alienation, codependency, but a codependency I think she was growing out of faster than he was.
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Aang's may have been more lethal, but Zuko's hurt more.
I think there was definately a "little too much" in Duncan's love for Lilly, though not to the degree of incest, as I'm told some fans take it. I tink, though, that at least some of that was more Lilly in general. EVERYONE is amazingly hung up on her...Duncan, Logan, Weevil and Veronica all almost have her on a madonna-like pedestal, even though they all know better.
Well said. And what's great about the actress they hired is that (imho) she was vivacious and charismatic enough that you don't look at the characters and go, 'why did you all like her? are you all stupid?'
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They took Lilly and took all the elements usually used to make you hate a female character and instead of crucifying her, made her awesome, and then hired a good actress. I was sad they couldn't figure out a way to work her into S2(but, you know, it made sense that they couldn't...)
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Gundum Wing... doesn't work for me on many levels, and I think a large part of that is the general insanity and the tight focus on five male pilots. If have the mecha pilots where female, I'd probably be over it like white on rice.
*nods* That's one of the things that made Veronica Mars so awesome; how violently flawed the characters were, and how we loved them anyway. And you have a really good point, that on any other show, Lilly's character would be Veronica's in school nemisis, instead of Logan.
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The GW series...is for teenaged boys. Sad but true.
(And speaking of gender issues, I've started watching S9 of Stargate SG-1 and oh, the difference between it and SGA. Yeah, tyhere are still issues...but it still handles it so much better.)
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(I'm glad to hear that SG-1 is handling gender better - although honestly, it would be hard to be worse.)
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Really, though, I think I'm pretty much just trying to make excuses for SGA in hopes that it'll get better later, because I do adore Teyla, and I greatly anticipate the very pretty man with dreads, and, well...I know Sam joins the cast later on, and the sad thing is that I love her enough that I'll probably tolerate anything for her.
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Also, I think a large part of the problem is that not only are the writers in love with Sheppard, they're in love with McKay, as well, so you have them going, 'we don't know how to deal with these women - but look over here! We have two of our favorite fantasies; the one where we're a handsome denonoir pilot and the one where we're such a genius it doesn't matter how much of an ass we are!'
And I'm being pretty critical - I don't mean to hash your squee at all. And frankly, putting up SGA's problems for Sam is completely reasonable to me.
For gods sake, I have the feeling I'm going to be watch BSG again, and lord knows I don't even have an excuse.
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Sheppard...honestly, in season one, he was just a cheap knockoff of Jack who was supposed to be the greatest thing ever, and wasn't. The actor did a good job of trying to separate them, but the script bogged him down. The thing about Jack, though, that they missed with him, is that while Jack has authority issues, he does RESPECT authority, unless authority proves itself worthy of disrespect. Sheppard just says "Screw you" to any authority, and then they try to say he's right about it, even though he's wrong, and they have to undermine Weir to do so. Also, quite frankly, he caused half the issues in S1 and often made deals he had no authority to make, putting Weir in impossible positions, but it was suppsed to be her being wishy washy and his being right, but we weren't supposed to notice that.
Honestly, based on the 2 1/2 eps of SG-1 S9 I've watched, everything they did wrong with him, they're doing right with Cameron. Cameron thinks for himself, and is still the "all american military superhero" the SG writers love so much, but is more grounded and aware of boundaries. He actually feels like the younger Jack he and Sheppard are both supposed to feel like, but sans the snark(well, he snarks, just not as much) and with a healthy dose of hero worship.
I think putting up with ANYTHING for Sam is reasonable.
BTW, since I remember you asking before: I like Vala a good bit, though I'm not sure yet what I think of Vala/Daniel. Most of their scenes so far make me think of squabbling five-year-olds, though there are a couple scenes that make me think there's potential if the writers ever have them do anything besides bicker and have her annoy him. Actually, in all honesty, while I'm fond of Daniel, he's my least favorite member of SG-1's OT4, and I actually prefer Jonas Quinn to him. I do like him, but his arrogance often makes me want to smack him upside the head.
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*Cough* But that fandom isn't big enough for popular versus unpopular opinions. SO.
I'll say... Starbuck.
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And yes, I actually need to do a pimp post for Tramps Like Us, because it is awesome (have you read the final volume yet?) Is there even an lj com for it?
But on to Starbuck (I've been out of the fandom for a while, so I'm not sure how current these are):
1.) Starbuck is just as awesome as the writers and her fans think she is.
2.) It makes perfect sense for her to go marry Anders after Lee said "i love you" because she is just that self-destructive and fracked up, but that doesn't permit you, Lee Adama, to compound her stupidity and drag Dee into it, even if I did lose all respect for her after she trash-talked Billy after breaking up with him.
3.) I'm sorry she got promoted. I wish they could have fanagled it so that she was Lee's second and he was the CAG forever.
And for you... Adama senior.
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The drama was pretty popular, and had carryover manga fans, and when you get that combo, a community tends to spring up.
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Note: Domyoji plays Momo.
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I'm going to need to learn his actual name.
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HYD 1 and 2(have you seen/are you going to see HYD2?)
He does a good bit of stuff, though I think he mostly does his band stuff and movies these days. He's a very good actor.
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Yeah, he is a good actor. Although so far in Gokusen, I keep wanting to tell him to dial the volume down and stop yelling.
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I'm not sure if there's an LJ comm. The drama came out a few years ago, so there's not really any new content left for the series. Hm.
1) Adama isn't that bad of a father. While he may have been a absent parent while Lee was a child, most of their current rift comes down to Lee's constant petulance.
2) Like Starbuck, Adama can't really function as a person outside of the military. That's why he's such a good commander. Being an officer isn't his job, it's what he is.
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I read the 12 manga and thought "this was perfect - oh no, should I stop reading now?' (partially because I didn't get that the women talking were his sister - I thought they were going to try and do some, 'oh, he's been cheat on Sumire' thing, which. No. No way.) and then I found out that the next volume was the last, and I was like, 'thank you so much for not ruining this for me.'
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And I like your comments about Adama. Especially about how alike he and Starbuck are.
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I've always thought she and Adama were sort of alike, in that being military officers is an integral part of their being. I think that's why she works so well as a surrogate daughter for him. Neither Lee nor Zach have that quality (which isn't to say that I think Lee is a poor officer, but I think he could have been just as successful in another career.)
Damn, I forgot to tag you of.
Ummm... hows about Light Yagami?
DEATH NOTE SPOILERS!!!!!
1.) The thought of Light begging like a little bitch is the only thing tempting me to finally finishing that series.
2.) Misa annoyed Light to no end but the fact that she lived to the end of the series tells me that he had some fucked up feelings for her.
3.) Light should have realized that if he killed every murderer on the planet, there would still have been him, and if I thought he, I don't know, planned to kill himself after he was done, I might have... hated him less?
And for you... Misa.
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And since it's right there: Toph.
Ask me somebody!
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1.) Toph is a brat. I said this at the time, but in the second 2 episodes she was in, she was pulling crap my mother NEVER let me get away with and would never THINK about doing to people who weren't, well, my mother, and I wanted Katara to bitchslap her silly.
2.) Sokka is never going to go for Toph. He likes girls who are a bit out of his league (I think Suki is perfect because she is both feminine and regal a la Yue, but is also strong enough to take him and hold her own in a fight, a la Katara). I don't think he'll ever see Toph as anything other than another little sister.
3.) This is only tangentially related to Toph, but every time someone writes Suki as a vamp or a fling from Sokka's pov, I want to beat them silly. Making Sokka not care about her just cheapens whatever you're trying to do with Toph/Sokka (and I say that as someone who cheats on her OTP with that pairing.)
For you... Suki. Or Katara.
I hated Toph in the two episodes after she was introduced, and while I love "The Runaway" I large part of that love is because that episode is basically a love letter to how awesome Katara is, and shows how Toph really fails at dealing well with her family issues.
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2. Word.
3. Dismissing feelings = bad.
I'll have to rewatch The Runaway, I can't remember which one it is. Was it the con-artist one?
Oooh, tough. I do not know most fandom opinions of Suki, besides "She's awesome!" which I already agree with.
Okay, here goes with Katara:
1. I don't see her as mothering. She seems a lot more like a older sister than a younger one, but she acts her age a lot more than the fans give her credit for. I think part of the "She's the mother!" comes from her usually being the...slightly more mature one, since she's contrasted with two 12-year-olds and Sokka.
2. I'm pretty sure at some point, she will use bloodbending. I will be disappointed if she doesn't it's be really shitty writing to introduce such a thing and then not use it, especially since Toph uses her metalbending. She used it to stop Hama (she did, right? I'm not misremembering?) and I feel that this war is so close to home for her, she will go far to end it. With the hate issues you brought up in mind, at some point in battle it'll snap that these enemies took away her mother.
Maybe Sokka'll bring it up during his planning.
Ideally, Katara'll use it against Ty Lee, equating body-control with the Ty Lee's chi-blocking technique.
3. I think she'd be a terrible Fire Lady.
The Painted Lady episode shows she doesn't hold the actions of the Army against the people, but then again this was a village on the water.
She was in the war-council in Ba Sing Se, and was respected...
She does seem to enjoy travelling the world, but homesickness would make it awfully sucky to be stuck in a place so different and burny.
I guess I feel she's a good leader, but not a stationary one. She's got travel experience, compromising tactics, and a strong will. I say she'd make a good traveling emissary for the Water Tribes.
...why does no one suggest dragging Zuko down to the Southern Water Tribe instead, if they have to be together? He could help keep people warm, and show that the new, peaceful Fire Nation is willing to be vulnerable.
If you feel like doing more, how about Captain Jack Sparrow?
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Oh, totally agreed about the bloodbending. She used it on Hama and was totally badass about it. If you have a pistol on the mantle... I just hope they do something similar to the stealing from pirates thing - where it's the best action in a bad situation and they don't make a huge angst fest about it, and but she has a moment of quiet 'what have i done?' and then has to go one and do things.
I think she would make a great leader or a great ambassador - as long as she had something important to do. I know I have a hard time imagining Zuko down at the South Pole (for extended periods of time) for the same reasons I can't imagine Katara going back to her village and staying there: there's nothing for them to do. (Plus, I don't think that Iroh would want to be Fire Lord, especially if Zuko wasn't around.) Basically, I see them as characters that need to have things to do, and I don't know how much they could find to fix and rule in an eight-hut village.
(however, I bet money Katara goes back to her village for a bit after the war is over, possibly until her grandmother dies, and Zuko vacationing in the South Pole is a situation ripe with hilarity.)
Jack... I'm not in the fandom enough to know what's unpopular, but...
1.) I don't think he's the kind of character that you can hang a movie on, thus Elizabeth and Will being hero and heroine and Jack as a very important secondary character.
2.) fic-wise, I have no interest in reading about Jack.
3.) Elizabeth is AWESOME.
4.) I totally don't see Jack/Will. And not just because I'm not a slasher.
For you... FMA's Lust.
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Were you the one who said you think there's more tribes than just theirs down in the South pole? Because in that case I can see her being there for quite some time teaching a bit to new waterbenders, getting the small tribes in contact with eachother.
Elizabeth Swann-Turner is more bad-ass than Will and Jack put together, in my not-so-humble opinion.
Hmm, haven't thought much about Lust until now, so this is pretty much spur of the moment...
1. I have no interest in het with her, because there's both
a) part of my brain screaming that men being seduced by the Sexy Sexy Danger is part of leftover stick-up-ass Christianity and other major religions attempts to make women out to be evil creatures who taint Good Upstanding Men and that it's not the pig's fault at all they got that bitch pregnant, she seduced me.
I know most FMA fans are not thinking like that at all, so I don't think badly of them at all, it just nags at me.
b) I just think the yuri would be infinitely hotter. Note to self: look for some Lust femslash.
2. Like the Nobodies in Kingdom Hearts, the homonculi are incomplete beings who had no choice in their creation, and simply want to feel whole again.
But I don't feel very bad for them, because they do really horrible things for that end.
3. While the porn could be really hot, part of Lust is the unfulfillment. People go after what's out of their reach, so actualling having sex with someone has the chance of lessening Lust's power over them, and I don't know if she'd be willing to do that. Might get people close though, leave them begging for more, without letting them achieve orgasm.
Another! Saiyuki's Sanzo.
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Elizabeth Swann-Turner is more bad-ass than Will and Jack put together, in my not-so-humble opinion.
Hell yeah.
I agree with most of what you said about Lust (have you checked out my memories? because there is some Lust/Maria in there that is just scorching) and I do think she's a bit of a tease - it's all about what you MIGHT get, not what you actually do.
Sanzo:
1.) Not that sexy. While he may be pretty, he's a pain in the ass.
2.) Loves Goku, but it's not sexual, and he'd kill anyone who said it was.
3.) Is not sexually attracted to ANYONE, and considers masturbation the same way he looks at being hungry.
For you: Gojyo.
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Gojyo, hmmm...(most of these are pretty loose, and may contradict eachother)
1. Not that great in bed. Puts on a good show, but hasn't slept with as many women as he claims.
2. Submissive. Enjoys the chase, flirting, but lets the partner take charge during sex.
3. Self-destructive in the past, but not so much anymore. The group, especially Hakkai, is a reason for him to preserve his own life. The group all claims they like that they don't have to worry about the others dying on them, but I think they're lying to us. Well, Sanzo might not be. Odds are if it wasn't for the group, he'd be dead in a few years.
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Hakkai:
1.) Is not that great a cook. He's just far, far better than anyone else in the ikkou.
2.) Knows that his obsession with keeping everything perfectly clean is a neruosis, but it's a useful neruosis, so he'll keep it, if it's just the same to you.
3.) takes his coffee sweet and black.
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He was heartbroken and furious over the fact that Azula had her.
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2.) I really hate the 'you must give up what you love to control you power trope', and I hope that M & B don't go that route, regardless of how easy that might make shipping Katara and Zuko. Also, I think that at this point, his chakra is blocked because of what Azula did physically, and not the fact that he's insanely in love with Katara.
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