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redbrunja ([personal profile] redbrunja) wrote2008-06-18 12:26 am
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I'm So Tired Of Being Tired

I swear, right now, I want to quit fandom.

No, there is nothing hugely dramatic prompting this. I am just so, so weary of the ingrained sexism and the fandom drama and the female character hate and the shipping wars.

I feel like declaring that after July, I'm going to go back to western tv and liveaction fandoms, because when two very different mangakas annoy me in exactly the same way in one fucking evening, and my own over-investment in a pairing + spoilers + the damn fandom itself is threatening to ruin the show that ruined me for anime....

Something is very wrong here.

(And then I remember that my previous happy skippy live action comedy show is killing my love, as is my current sci-fi drama, my last sci-fi drama betrayed me horribly, and my last girl-centric show was torturous near the end, and I realize I'm going to need to go back to reading books and give myself time to let the wounds heal.)

[identity profile] meganbmoore.livejournal.com 2008-06-18 03:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Off the top of my head, I think they're the only ones where a person could get the vaguest idea that she's a meek miss who needs her man(#10 is after she wakes up from her coma, #27 should be after she gives birth, #1 is, of course where we're meeting the characters.)

*goes off mumbling about how wanting and needing your man are different things and being happy you have him doesn't mean you weren't just fine without him*

[identity profile] fairest1.livejournal.com 2008-06-18 09:13 pm (UTC)(link)
#27 was the issue at the end of March of the Wooden Soldiers where Snow ran out and gave Bigby a hug. Not only did they portray Snow as meek, they portrayed Snow and Bigby's relationship this early on as being . . . well, schmoopy.

*sigh* They love each other. And as for need . . . I suppose you could say that Snow needs Bigby. But Bigby needs Snow just as much, if not more. They support each other, each makes the other stronger, makes them want to be a better person.

[identity profile] meganbmoore.livejournal.com 2008-06-18 09:21 pm (UTC)(link)
By "need" I meant "be able to function and feel like a complete person" which seems to be fandoms opinions of female characters, except for when they're making justfications for pushing them aside for slash.

(He showed up and won her battle for her! She is allowed to have a sentimental, schmoopy moment! Also, she was pregnant! And leading her side in a war! And he was gone a long time! she can be schmoopy! It's the closest you can get to "tongue down the throat midbattle means 'I love you'" when one of you is a wolf!)

[identity profile] fairest1.livejournal.com 2008-06-18 09:27 pm (UTC)(link)
*sigh* It was an awesome, schmoopworthy moment that both characters totally earned. But the fic that I'm going WTF over is one that seemed to only see that single schmoopy moment and assumed that their entire relationship was like that, and entirely ignored Snow's many well-crafted neuroses and . . . well, pretty much everything in Storybook Love.