redbrunja: (Waterbending Master (Katara))
redbrunja ([personal profile] redbrunja) wrote2008-09-07 10:33 pm

Why Naruto Fandom > Avatar Fandom

Because when a poster in [livejournal.com profile] naruto_rants  bitches about female character for no reason, 95 percent of the comments will be like, "Thigh high boots are hot, bitch, and we like our murderous healer chicks."

You pull that in Avatar fandom, and you'll have the majority going "burn that waterbending bitch for having a spine! BURN HER IN THE FACE!"

strange_quark: (a:tla: k/z)

[personal profile] strange_quark 2008-09-08 07:39 pm (UTC)(link)
It's like, if you can't handle your OTP not being sweet to each other every moment SHIP SOMETHING ELSE.

Mostly, they've missed the point. How awesome is it that you get these characters from completely different sides of the track, who are really polarized against each other but who actually have a hell of a lot in common. One of them is constantly fucking up, and he tries to redeem himself but the other one is still pissed because he personally betrayed her. Then they get this really cathartic experience where they begin to fully understand each other, and in the end they've got this really strong friendship and they're very close. That's an awesome recipe for romance, but if you skip all of those beginning steps and go straight to the last, you get... Katara/Aang. Which is not nearly as interesting.

Also, hate!sex can be hot.

(On that subject, have you read the latest chapters? Because I have a rant about that.)

You bet I have, and I'll bet you do. Rant away, sister. FUCKING DEUS EX MACHINA AMATERASU-EXTINGUISHER WTF WTF

[identity profile] redbrunja.livejournal.com 2008-09-09 03:23 pm (UTC)(link)
Word, word, word.

ANd frankly, I'm not even upset about Sasuke deux ex machina - I've been waiting for that from the beginning of this fight.

Was pisses me off is that Naruto is TOTALLY stealing Sakura's powers and it SUCKS and I just KNOW that when we get back to Konoha, Sakura WON'T have been powered up offscreen, even though she totally deserves it, and it three members of Team 7 are getting (undeserved) power boosts, she should too.
strange_quark: (naruto: sakura's gonna kick your ass)

[personal profile] strange_quark 2008-09-10 04:52 am (UTC)(link)
The new Sharingan. Why is it so ridiculous. Why. Jesus. I was even willing give Sasuke a little credit with the last chapter (because did we, wait, was that... ah, there's Sasuke's soul! There's a little bit of the Sasuke I liked pre-Shippuden) but this author, man.

Unlike Avatar, Naruto doesn't seem to reward hard workers without fancy tricks who pushed through with pure heart. I can only name a few off the top of my head, and very few of them get screen time. When was the last time we heard from Lee, huh? When was the last time Hinata got to do something cool?

[identity profile] redbrunja.livejournal.com 2008-09-10 05:55 am (UTC)(link)
*blinks*

on, wow, you may have spawned a whole post I need to do on Naruto's elitist themes. Because you are so right; people's talent and screen time is SO DEPENDENT about the blessings of God/Kishimoto.

Let's see, you have:

Naruto: has a demon put into him at birth, son of the Hokage.

Sasuke: bloodline limit, last heir to a hugely important clan

Kakashi: comes from a ninja family and is given a bloodline limit.

Shikamaru (who gets an insane amount of screen time, considering): bloodline limit, genius (genetics).

Neji: bloodline limit, naturally gifted.

Compare and contrast with:

Rock Lee, genius of hard work: has NEVER won a fight. EVER.

Hinata: bloodline limit - natural ninja talent=works hard to overcome. Never seen from again.

Sakura: no ninja background, gifted with genjutsu: ignored by her first sensei, ignored during the sasuke in a barrel arc, and then has her awesome based-on-her-own-skills strength stolen by the main character, because he didn't have enough gifts, what with the massive chakra reserves, heirloom jutsu, frog summons, and clones weren't freaking enough.

Kishimoto has an ANTI hard work theme. You either get your skills from her family, or you're fucked.

(The Sannin are the only exceptions to this, and I actually think they are better balanched characters than Team 7. First, neither Orochimaru or Jiraiya come from important families, Tsunade is the one with political power and they are all on the same level, power wise.)