redbrunja: (What I Shouldn't Want (Kakashi/Sakura))
redbrunja ([personal profile] redbrunja) wrote2009-05-12 12:47 pm

Drive-By Update

It is clearly the final month of school; I'm stressed, my to-do list needs two sticky notes to get everything on it, etc.

So if I haven't replied to your comment, it's probably because you wrote something that will take me more than two seconds to respond to; don't worry, I'll respond. Just... not right away.

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Secondly, the latest fandom_secrets post was so incredibly wank-tastic and troll worthy, that it deserves it's own WTF commentary. I'm not going to go into details, except that I have something brief to say about the Sasuke/Sakura/Hinata/Naruto (not in the fun orgy way) secret, since people on my flist are already talking about it:

1.) Sasuke/Sakura and Hinata/Naruto ARE NOT correlated variables: one can happen without the other.

2.) Stepping back from the details of the pairings themselves (since I think everyon already knows my opinion on that), wouldn't it be incredibly problematic if they both happened? Doesn't that send a horrible message to both girls and boys about how girls should just endlessly pursue the object of their desire? And boys should just go 'oh, okay' regardless of who THEY want to be with, because those girls spend so much energy on them? It takes (or it SHOULD) two to tango and neither Sasuke nor Naruto has shown that they are romantically interested in Sakura and Hinata, respectively. Which leads me to point three:

3.) Kishimoto is not writing a romantic adventure manga. Arguing about which pairing will be canon at this time is pointless because Kishimoto has not given us ANYTHING CLOSE to a clear canon signal about what relationships will end up being canon (one-sided crush does not equal 'will be canon'). This is not Avatar: we don't know how Team 7's romantic lives will work out and it's actually somewhat probable with Kishimoto's emphasis on nakama that we WILL NOT get a bunch of pairings in the epilogue (please god).

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Thirdly, I watched Star Trek on Sunday and it was the most awesome movie I have seen since Iron Man. Longer post to follow... sooner or later.

[identity profile] okroginator.livejournal.com 2009-05-13 02:15 am (UTC)(link)
I hope no pairings happen in Naruto canon so I can continue writing fanfiction for whichever ones I like. -_- I mean, you know what I ship, for god's sake. If I wanted a manga where I root for a ship until it happens, I'll go pick up something with "shoujo" on the front of it. And even then, I'll crackship random characters anyway.

I really don't see why it's so important for pairings to ever become canon anyway. Is your imagination so barren that you can't imagine how a romantic scene would go between two characters without the medium of the series' creator, fandom?

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[identity profile] redbrunja.livejournal.com 2009-05-13 02:17 am (UTC)(link)
I totally agree.

Plus, I have been burned by pairings I love becoming canon that I totally don't understand most of fandoms OMG IT MUST BE CANON ATTITUDE!

PS: that icon always cracks me up

[identity profile] the-sun-is-up.livejournal.com 2009-05-13 04:03 am (UTC)(link)
I totally don't understand most of fandoms OMG IT MUST BE CANON ATTITUDE!

I tend to assume that people like that are new in fandom and haven't yet witnessed what happens when things become canon in a way you don't like.

Re: PS: that icon always cracks me up

[identity profile] redbrunja.livejournal.com 2009-05-13 04:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, what innocent souls. They'll learn. Oh, will they learn.

[identity profile] hieronymousb.livejournal.com 2009-05-13 04:20 am (UTC)(link)
Lol, in a lot of my fandoms, the pairings I've liked have been so UN-canon that I had no hope nor thought of them hooking up in the canon, but I will say, when I've actually wanted a pairing to become canon, it's usually because half of it obviously desires half the other half, and I want to see that character's desires validated. [Pain/Konan; NaruHina, to some extent. Not SasuSaku, for other reasons, but if Sasuke had seemed more open to it?]

In a way, it's almost easier for me (emotionally, I mean) to ship pairings where there's NO CHANCE it could happen, because if I ship something like NaruHina, where half of it ACTUALLY DOES want the other half in an obvious way, it can be sort of heart-breaking when it's denied to them. So that's personally why I sometimes have the desire to see things become canon.

[identity profile] redbrunja.livejournal.com 2009-05-13 04:53 pm (UTC)(link)
In a way, it's almost easier for me (emotionally, I mean) to ship pairings where there's NO CHANCE it could happen, because if I ship something like NaruHina, where half of it ACTUALLY DOES want the other half in an obvious way, it can be sort of heart-breaking when it's denied to them.

Exactly. It's the hope that a pairing I like will get together being dashed that really kills me, and then while I understand the validation of having a pairing made canon, I have too many ships that I've loved until they took that step, and then I hated them.

[identity profile] okroginator.livejournal.com 2009-05-14 01:33 am (UTC)(link)
In a way, it's almost easier for me (emotionally, I mean) to ship pairings where there's NO CHANCE it could happen

Basically, yeah, I rarely ship pairings anymore that have any chance of becoming canon for this reason alone.

[identity profile] goldengrimoire.livejournal.com 2009-05-13 03:14 am (UTC)(link)
*jumping in*

Crackship territory is the place to be! :)

Also, sometimes the creator just plain flubs a pairing, and those are the times I wish a pairing wasn't canon.

[identity profile] redbrunja.livejournal.com 2009-05-13 06:14 pm (UTC)(link)
Also, sometimes the creator just plain flubs a pairing, and those are the times I wish a pairing wasn't canon.

I have been burned by this before.
strange_quark: (wall-e: rawr!)

[personal profile] strange_quark 2009-05-13 06:37 am (UTC)(link)
I really don't see why it's so important for pairings to ever become canon anyway. Is your imagination so barren that you can't imagine how a romantic scene would go between two characters without the medium of the series' creator, fandom?

WORLDS OF THIS. Jeez, man. I mean, sometimes it's nice to have some validation from the narrative, but sometimes it's not nice. I really feel that a person has only dipped their toes into the world of shipping if canon, to them, is the be all and end all.

[identity profile] okroginator.livejournal.com 2009-05-14 01:34 am (UTC)(link)
I know, right? Sometimes I like a pairing and pray it doesn't become canon because of the possibility of being disappointed by its execution.