redbrunja: (Feminist: Not A Dirty Word)
redbrunja ([personal profile] redbrunja) wrote2010-01-25 07:59 pm

Fail, Slash Fangirls, Fail

You know what I keep hearing? What pisses me off like no other?

The slasher pov that it is impossible to write a male/female relationship that is equal.

Fuck that.

If you want to write about boys sexing each other, fine, but don't flat-out state that it is impossible for a fictionally heterosexual relationship to ever be equal, as well as implying that every single real world straight relationship is inequal to boot.


strange_quark: (a:tla: pouty zuko)

[personal profile] strange_quark 2010-01-26 09:55 am (UTC)(link)
Which is why they're also writing so much femmeslash, right? I mean, a lesbian relationship must be as equal as a gay one, right?

I must admit, watching people try to justify their ingrained misogyny is pretty entertaining. In that 'my God you make me want to rip my hair out by the roots' kind of way.
strange_quark: (wall-e: rawr!)

[personal profile] strange_quark 2010-01-26 10:01 am (UTC)(link)
Not to say, of course, that people who like and/or write slash must be misogynists. Just that when I'm usually seeing such a justification for why slash is better than het, I'm usually seeing some form of misogyny in there too.

[identity profile] redbrunja.livejournal.com 2010-01-26 04:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Which is why they're also writing so much femmeslash, right? I mean, a lesbian relationship must be as equal as a gay one, right?

Oh, they are, it's just that writing femmeslash is so much harder because writers don't give female/female friendships the same screentime that male/male friendships get.

Just that when I'm usually seeing such a justification for why slash is better than het, I'm usually seeing some form of misogyny in there too.

I totally agree.

[identity profile] qualapec.livejournal.com 2010-01-26 11:23 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, they are, it's just that writing femmeslash is so much harder because writers don't give female/female friendships the same screentime that male/male friendships get.

Agreed, but I still think it's important to remember that some heterosexual girls are just not...comfortable writing femmeslash. Sometimes, I don't think it's so much an equality thing as it's just not what they're interested in writing. Not necessarily because they don't find female characters interesting, but just because writing f/f squicks them. There is a fair bit of subconscious (and more blatant) misogyny among slashers, but I don't think it's fair to assume that someone is not writing as much f/f as m/m because they don't like writing female characters.

Or were you just referencing that in relation to the "yaoi is the only equal relationship" argument (which IS utter fail and the 'as much f/f as m/m' argument makes sense in that case) I wasn't sure if you were speaking in general or not...

[identity profile] redbrunja.livejournal.com 2010-01-27 01:14 am (UTC)(link)
I was specifically referencing what I was specifically told by this slasher.

I have no problem with people not writing het or femmeslash because slash is what is easy or what they want to read or what turns their crank.

What I have a problem is when people try to argue that slash is somehow quantitatively better than het, which is unavoidably damaged.

[identity profile] qualapec.livejournal.com 2010-01-27 02:08 am (UTC)(link)
Okay, I see what you're saying :)