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[redbrunja]

You know what I keep hearing? What pisses me off like no other?

The slasher pov that it is impossible to write a male/female relationship that is equal.

Fuck that.

If you want to write about boys sexing each other, fine, but don't flat-out state that it is impossible for a fictionally heterosexual relationship to ever be equal, as well as implying that every single real world straight relationship is inequal to boot.

Comments

[nimblnymph.livejournal.com]

Hmmm... interesting.

Are you talking about the... shit, what is it ... Antigone complex? I think that's it anyway.

See, I always thought it was more that a child would look for a partner that bore similar traits to the parent of the opposite sex -- which meant they wanted to have sex with that parent, or something like that.

Of course, this is just going off what I remember of it. I kinda zoned out on the Freud talk. Dude was messed up and had no business playing with people's heads when his own was a playground of jacked-uppery. Not to mention, I think you were helping me with a psych project not too long ago ... so chances are I'll probably defer to you on this one.

[meitah.livejournal.com]

See, I always thought it was more that a child would look for a partner that bore similar traits to the parent of the opposite sex -- which meant they wanted to have sex with that parent, or something like that.

I learned that it was both that and that the opposite sex parent has slightly more influence over a child than the other parent.

The Freud talk is one of the better ones to zone out on. It's... disturbing to think about. And it makes you wonder about Freud's relationship with his own mother and his daughter, Anna, who continued his research.

No problem! It was a lot of fun. But I think my words should be taken with a grain of salt. I grew up around psych people, but I've only taken two formal classes in it. Everything else I learned at the age of five with my mom when she was studying. (Though I was apparently disturbingly good at behavioral modification, as my dad really should have noticed.)

[nimblnymph.livejournal.com]

"The Freud talk is one of the better ones to zone out on."

I think he had some good BASE ideas, but the man was entirely too preoccupied with sex and was more about (it seems to me) finding PROBLEMS than solutions.

[meitah.livejournal.com]

Indeed. He's a good base, but he's too single-issue to be anything more than a base. Yes, parents and sex are two huge things in psych, but they aren't everything, and no one wants to think of those two words in the same sentence. Except maybe Freud. Squick.

[redbrunja.livejournal.com]

I agree. Also, snarkly, I have to note that most of his ideas are impossible to test effectively.

[hungrytiger11.livejournal.com]

I always feel there are several important carvats to throw out whenever you are talking about Freud. First, the society he was a part of was enormously repressed, especially sexually. Second, he mostly treated people with hysteria and things that genuniely had to do with sexual repression (men with the "glove syndrome" where they couldn't feel their hand below the glove line because they were trying to suppress a sexual urge to rub one off, for example). Therefore, Freud's pool of research is horribly skewed. Third, looking at any pysch theory you want to see both if there's a lot written about it (indicating it is considered a valid idea to investigate by peers) and if the theory holds up in real life tests and case studies. Freud does have a ton of people researching his views, but his theories are mostly debunked (not all, though the antigone/oepdieus complex is).

Still, he's pretty important to pop culture; his ideas have been infused in all sorts of literature and music etc. He's also important because his ideas spawned a lot of good other houses of thinking.