the awe(someness) and evilness of historical figures
Same here! That would be a great way to bump up my history skills.
food experiments
I'm going home and baking brownies. I'll let you know how they turn out.
stylistic and cultural differences in US and UK television
Could I bribe you to write this? Because it would be awesome and epic. If I watched more British shows, I would post on how 12 episode seasons and the prevelence of mini-series leads to better pacing.
critical (pos&neg) analysis of popular fanfiction (no one ever does this, ever, unless there's a Mary Sue)
This would be kind of epic, but would have a really small audience, give that most people would only read it if they had also read the fanfic.
muuuuuuuuusic as opposed to bandom.
Oh, bandom, please die. It fills up my flist, is of no interest to me, and is clearly using real people as blow up dolls. And totally is not talking about the music at all.
This would be kind of epic, but would have a really small audience, give that most people would only read it if they had also read the fanfic.
Yes, and there's also the emotional reactions. If it's a small fandom, you risk alienating your whole social circle, even if a review is 80% positive. If it's a big fandom with a series popular enough that people can actually talk about it, you risk having it turn into a screamfest kerfluffle. Maybe I should just see if there's already comms out there for this.
Part of my desire to talk about fanfic like this is just that I wish I had more general discussion of writing as a craft. Not the emotional motivations and frustrations, which are always being mentioned, but the machinery of writing itself. I feel like the only time this discussion happens in current/modern fandom is in the small two- or three-way relationships of beta-readers, or on the very rare occasion in concrit reviews/comments, though those fall overwhelmingly into the positive, particularly on LJ. I don't know what happened between ff.net and LJ as ficdoms, but somehow the concrit or even plain "that sucks" reviewing that's acceptable on ff.net is taken COMPLETELY personal on LJ. As if a fic posted on LJ, even in a comm, is too close to their personal journal and somehow thus too close to their heart.
Oh, bandom, please die. It fills up my flist, is of no interest to me, and is clearly using real people as blow up dolls. And totally is not talking about the music at all.
For me following bands has always been like following celebrities. A "fandom" in the most literal sense, but far away from "FANDOM" in the entertainment media online community sense. To my brain, fangirlling fiction is completely different from fangirlling celebs, and music industry personalities fall into the celeb category. But in the last 3 years I've become aware (due mostly to some growing interest on my flist) of music celebrity as "BANDOM"-- and it's just a weird, weird combination of the two. Like all RPS, it's fictional but based on real people, except I don't even see it as actor RPS, which seems marginally more tangible to me. I just can't connect to it at all.
I also think this has to do with the fact that I don't idolize bands, artists, songs, or movements. I don't care about "going mainstream" or following the motivations and quality of artists over time. I just like experiencing music from the POV of the listener, the consumer. It's about my relationship to the song, not what I perceive the artist's relationship to be, so to me the artist is practically invisible. They are a faceless voice on the radio. I guess because I don't consume music/bands/whatever as a visual medium (I don't watch videos much, rarely go to concerts), only an auditory one.
Part of my desire to talk about fanfic like this is just that I wish I had more general discussion of writing as a craft. Not the emotional motivations and frustrations, which are always being mentioned, but the machinery of writing itself.
Ah, that makes sense! And yes, there is not a lot of that kind of discussion outside the beta-writer relationship. Interestingly enough, I think fandom is training people out of doing that, if they ever did. I just read a post on reviewing, and while I liked most of what she had to say, she felt that unless the author says something like 'all feedback' or you shouldn't give constructive crit, or only give it over pm or email, which I really disagreed with.
And this is probably happening because, as you mentioned, things seem much more personal on lj.
It's about my relationship to the song, not what I perceive the artist's relationship to be, so to me the artist is practically invisible. They are a faceless voice on the radio. I guess because I don't consume music/bands/whatever as a visual medium (I don't watch videos much, rarely go to concerts), only an auditory one.
This is exactly how I consume music. The artist is really secondary to the work, and often knowing more about them decreased my enjoyment in the song.
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Same here! That would be a great way to bump up my history skills.
food experiments
I'm going home and baking brownies. I'll let you know how they turn out.
stylistic and cultural differences in US and UK television
Could I bribe you to write this? Because it would be awesome and epic. If I watched more British shows, I would post on how 12 episode seasons and the prevelence of mini-series leads to better pacing.
critical (pos&neg) analysis of popular fanfiction (no one ever does this, ever, unless there's a Mary Sue)
This would be kind of epic, but would have a really small audience, give that most people would only read it if they had also read the fanfic.
muuuuuuuuusic as opposed to bandom.
Oh, bandom, please die. It fills up my flist, is of no interest to me, and is clearly using real people as blow up dolls. And totally is not talking about the music at all.
no subject
Yes, and there's also the emotional reactions. If it's a small fandom, you risk alienating your whole social circle, even if a review is 80% positive. If it's a big fandom with a series popular enough that people can actually talk about it, you risk having it turn into a screamfest kerfluffle. Maybe I should just see if there's already comms out there for this.
Part of my desire to talk about fanfic like this is just that I wish I had more general discussion of writing as a craft. Not the emotional motivations and frustrations, which are always being mentioned, but the machinery of writing itself. I feel like the only time this discussion happens in current/modern fandom is in the small two- or three-way relationships of beta-readers, or on the very rare occasion in concrit reviews/comments, though those fall overwhelmingly into the positive, particularly on LJ. I don't know what happened between ff.net and LJ as ficdoms, but somehow the concrit or even plain "that sucks" reviewing that's acceptable on ff.net is taken COMPLETELY personal on LJ. As if a fic posted on LJ, even in a comm, is too close to their personal journal and somehow thus too close to their heart.
Oh, bandom, please die. It fills up my flist, is of no interest to me, and is clearly using real people as blow up dolls. And totally is not talking about the music at all.
For me following bands has always been like following celebrities. A "fandom" in the most literal sense, but far away from "FANDOM" in the entertainment media online community sense. To my brain, fangirlling fiction is completely different from fangirlling celebs, and music industry personalities fall into the celeb category. But in the last 3 years I've become aware (due mostly to some growing interest on my flist) of music celebrity as "BANDOM"-- and it's just a weird, weird combination of the two. Like all RPS, it's fictional but based on real people, except I don't even see it as actor RPS, which seems marginally more tangible to me. I just can't connect to it at all.
I also think this has to do with the fact that I don't idolize bands, artists, songs, or movements. I don't care about "going mainstream" or following the motivations and quality of artists over time. I just like experiencing music from the POV of the listener, the consumer. It's about my relationship to the song, not what I perceive the artist's relationship to be, so to me the artist is practically invisible. They are a faceless voice on the radio. I guess because I don't consume music/bands/whatever as a visual medium (I don't watch videos much, rarely go to concerts), only an auditory one.
no subject
Ah, that makes sense! And yes, there is not a lot of that kind of discussion outside the beta-writer relationship. Interestingly enough, I think fandom is training people out of doing that, if they ever did. I just read a post on reviewing, and while I liked most of what she had to say, she felt that unless the author says something like 'all feedback' or you shouldn't give constructive crit, or only give it over pm or email, which I really disagreed with.
And this is probably happening because, as you mentioned, things seem much more personal on lj.
It's about my relationship to the song, not what I perceive the artist's relationship to be, so to me the artist is practically invisible. They are a faceless voice on the radio. I guess because I don't consume music/bands/whatever as a visual medium (I don't watch videos much, rarely go to concerts), only an auditory one.
This is exactly how I consume music. The artist is really secondary to the work, and often knowing more about them decreased my enjoyment in the song.