I Wanna Be Unspoiled But

[redbrunja]

I am one of those people who likes to be surprised - my enjoyment of a plot twist et cetera is greatly enhanced by not knowing it's coming.

THAT SAID.

Regarding Sansa Stark:will someone please tell me if she did something epic in the latest book? Or it was hinted that she was going to lead Winterfell in Robb's place? I know that she was the vehicle to poison Joffrey and that she went into hiding but did GRR Martin let her live up to her potential?

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[borg-princess.livejournal.com]

Don't take me as a source of truthiness, since I don't read the books, but I heard the Sansa parts were cut out for the next book? Like, originally it was Westeros in one book and stuff with Dany, Sansa and a bunch of others in the next, but then he cut them out to put in the next next book, so...yeah.

Like I said, IDK what's really going on, so someone else might have more encouraging news.

[redbrunja.livejournal.com]

That seems odd, but I understand why an author would do that, especially given the huge cast GRRM has.

[zombie_boogie.livejournal.com]

If you're talking about A Dance with Dragons, Sansa isn't in it (it's true that her chapters were moved forward to The Winds of Winter). I thought her plot line in A Feast for Crows was excellent and is setting the stage for some truly marvelous stuff for her in the future in terms of her becoming a player in the game. QUEEN OF THE NORTH Y'ALL. QUEEN OF THE NORTH. ALL I WANT. Also Sansa/Littlefinger/Moon Door OT3.

ETA: let me know if you want more specifics because it's not clear to me from the post whether you've read AFFC or not.

[redbrunja.livejournal.com]

Okay, I am going to need more specifics. Is there legitimate set-up that she is going to be the queen in the north? Did she throw Littlefinger out the moon door? My curiosity must be satisfied!

And I have not read AFFC, I've just been spoiled. Largely because I only recently realized how much I cared about the show.

[zombie_boogie.livejournal.com]

OK so at the end of the third book we have Sansa and Littlefinger in the Vale of Arryn. In the fourth book we learn that Littlefinger's big plan is basically to rule the north and east by crowning Sansa - eventually they will reveal her identity as the heir of Winterfell (at the moment she is posing as his bastard daughter). At the same time, she is engaged to a distant relative of the Arryns who is Robert Arryn's (the little boy seen breastfeeding at like age eight in the first season) heir. Basically if Littlefinger's plan is successful Sansa would be Warden of the North AND of the East.

At the same time we get the impression that Sansa is slowly letting go of her naive ideas of the world and learning to play the game of thrones. Nothing has happened to Littlefinger yet, but my fervent hope is that he dies by Sansa's hand in a case of the apprentice beating the master.

[fallingtowers.livejournal.com]

...but my fervent hope is that he dies by Sansa's hand in a case of the apprentice beating the master.

Heh. Mine too! I am rooting so, so hard for his premature and violent end as her way to power / revenge for her murdered relatives (after all, he betrayed Ned and also seems to enjoy "punishing" Cat for not falling in love with him).

[redbrunja.livejournal.com]

(after all, he betrayed Ned and also seems to enjoy "punishing" Cat for not falling in love with him).

That is one reason I really enjoyed Littlefinger and Sansa's interactions in the first season - because I definitely felt like he was subsuming his love for Cat with Sansa in this weird way.

[zombie_boogie.livejournal.com]

Sansa/Littlefinger is so beautifully fucked up. I loooooove it.

[redbrunja.livejournal.com]

At the same time, she is engaged to a distant relative of the Arryns who is Robert Arryn's (the little boy seen breastfeeding at like age eight in the first season) heir. Basically if Littlefinger's plan is successful Sansa would be Warden of the North AND of the East.

Ahhhh, okay, that makes a ton of sense.

but my fervent hope is that he dies by Sansa's hand in a case of the apprentice beating the master.

SAME HERE. God, that would be so amazing.

[cynchick.livejournal.com]

Remember that she's 13-14 and a lot of people want to use her for political ends, so she doesn't really have her own agency yet. She won't do anything epic until she breaks free of their hold on her. I actually don't have high hopes for her. She's a weak personality, and she may play a critical role in something later on, but I doubt it will be through her own actions. She's definitely not a Daenerys or Arya, in the sense that she doesn't take her fate in her own two hands.

On a literal timeline its only been about a year since the war began, but because there's SO much story and SO many characters, it's taken a very long time to put all the pieces together. Book 4 and 5 are actually one book split in two, with 4 covering characters in Westeros, and 5 focusing on characters elsewhere. GRRM pulled a The Two Towers on us.

[redbrunja.livejournal.com]

On a literal timeline its only been about a year since the war began, but because there's SO much story and SO many characters, it's taken a very long time to put all the pieces together. Book 4 and 5 are actually one book split in two, with 4 covering characters in Westeros, and 5 focusing on characters elsewhere. GRRM pulled a The Two Towers on us.


Oh, I hope they don't do that when they adapt it for the tv show....

[ivanolix.livejournal.com]

Just given my history with reading books that are plotted out in advance - i.e. a lifetime of just reading - I feel like Sansa's development is headed towards being queen of something. There are HEAVY HEAVY hints in her character development and the themes/metaphors in her parts of the story. I would be shocked if she didn't end up as Lady of Winterfell, Queen of the North, or Queen of the Seven Kingdoms. She's definitely living up to her potential so far, even if she hasn't taken a fully independent step yet. She's biding her time and learning how the game works. And it's so exciting. I can't wait to see what happens with her.

[redbrunja.livejournal.com]

That is EXACTLY what I was hoping to hear! Thank you!