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Thursday, October 3rd, 2013 10:53 pm
[livejournal.com profile] deathmallow asked me about "5 ships you would condemn to oblivion and why."

Katara/Aang

I will never be over the writers reducing a vibrant, well-written, nuanced character to a voiceless prize for the hero who sacrificed nothing. The fact that this ship also cock-blocked my OTP is icing on the cake.

Dean/Castiel

If this pairing didn’t exist, Supernatural would have ended already, Jensen Ackles would be free to be in shows I want to watch again (i miss u, dark angel), instead of Supernatural continuing on in this queer-baiting, tumblr-consuming immortality.

Tim Drake/Jason Todd

(sorry, [livejournal.com profile] latenightcuppa)

It's not so much that I have a problem with this pairing as I desperately, desperately want Jason Todd het and I’m not a Tim Drake fan. Instead, I cannot help but come across Jason/Tim fics and art over and over and over again.

Since I know this distinction came up in the comments, it is not that I do not understand the APPEAL of Jason/Tim, its that it personally leaves me really cold. It’s like I’m sitting at a table and everything is coconut flavored and everyone else is stuffing chowing down and talking about how delicious it is and I’m sipping water. And then even the water is coconut flavored.

What I REALLY want to do is work some fandom black magic that replaces Tim Drake with Stephanie Brown.

GORGEOUS, WELL DRAWN BAT-FAMILY ART STARRING DICK, JASON, STEPHANIE AND DAMIAN!

DELIGHTFULLY PERFECT LINE ART WHERE STEPHANIE IS TWINED GRACEFULLY AROUND JASON WHILE HIS STRONG, BROAD HANDS REST ON HER BACK!

10,000 + WORD FANFICS ABOUT JASON AND STEPHANIE’S SLOW-BURN ROMANCE!

10,000+ WORD STEPHANIE/JASON HS AUS!

10,000+ WORD FANFICS ABOUT STEPHANIE AND JASON FIGHTING CRIME AND HAVING SEX!

Emma Swan/ Neal, Once Upon A Time

Ah, a pairing build around the idea of hetronormativity and the only real kind of family is blood-family and forgiveness.

Clint x Loki or Natasha x Loki, The Avengers

NO.

Bruce x Tony x Pepper, The Avengers

I see what you’re doing here. And unlike Steve x Tony x Pepper, which at least has the factor of ‘who WOULDN’T want to fuck Captain America’, Bruce x Tony x Pepper is just pretending you’re not breaking up an AWESOME canon het couple when you kind of are, PLUS you’re saddling Pepper with a dude who has all of Tony’s self-destructive tendencies and penchant for destruction with NONE of Tony’s positive traits (money, he comes with JARVIS, and he’s fucking hot).

Ben/Kitty, Kitty & The Midnight Hour

Kitty is a werewolf who has a romance (unconsummated but canon as fuck) with a werewolf hunter. Despite an initial meeting where he almost kills her, they end up working together (working WELL together), making each other better, stronger people. Instead of Kitty putting a ring on that dude, she ends up married to a guy because he’s a.) a werewolf and b.) not as much of a douchebag as the male werewolves she’s used to. But don’t be confused – this is still the guy who dismissed her feelings about traumatic experiences, didn’t publicize their relationship for as long as possible, and who she knew so poorly that it was only once they were engaged that she learned that he didn’t like music (she’s a DJ).

Laurel/Oliver, Arrow

Not only is this a boring relationship with zero chemistry that brings out the worst in Oliver and makes Laurel look weak, the Laurel needed to make this pairing exist is a complete insult to ANY of the comics-verse Black Canaries – either the original Dinah Drake, who posed as a criminal to fight crime or Dinah fucking Lance, who is such an epic badass she’s on a team with Oracle and such a skilled martial artist that Lady Shiva wanted to train her.

Ann x Chris, Parks and Rec

The show had fucking multiple episodes about why these two didn’t work as a couple (he wasn’t that into her, she loses herself in relationships) and now they’re only together because Ann wanted to get knocked up. (And don’t even get me started on all the rights that Ann is potentially giving up by getting pregnant with someone she knows.)

This is the relationship that is going to cause Ann to leave Pawnee?
Saturday, October 5th, 2013 07:24 am (UTC)
As tolerant as I try to be, I also have a handful of ships that I just want to banish into oblivion. I understand your feelings 100%.

And greed about there needing to be Jason/Stephanie in the world. I love Jay/Tim for my tragedy fix (since I would never feel right about stories where Stephanie is taken by the Joker/dies and Jason suffers a lot) but I would love some nice, well-plotted JaySteph.
Edited 2013-10-05 07:24 am (UTC)
Saturday, October 5th, 2013 07:31 am (UTC)
I love Jay/Tim for my tragedy fix (since I would never feel right about stories where Stephanie is taken by the Joker/dies and Jason suffers a lot)

Yeah, there's some unfortunate implications there. But how would you feel about Jason getting horribly killed by Black Mask (and know he's dead, roll with it) and Stephanie suffers a lot, kills Black Mask, is rejected by the bat-fam, and ends up taking Jason's place as the killer hero Gotham needs?
Saturday, October 5th, 2013 08:01 am (UTC)
What I generally like about the idea of Jason losing his partner is the juxtaposition between the fact he was brought back and a lot of his arc is about relearning how to be a person, also the angst about whether he would bring that person back or not given how much he suffered for it. That being said ---

Yeah, there's some unfortunate implications there. But how would you feel about Jason getting horribly killed by Black Mask (and know he's dead, roll with it) and Stephanie suffers a lot, kills Black Mask, is rejected by the bat-fam, and ends up taking Jason's place as the killer hero Gotham needs?

A+ would read because I am also all about ladies losing the men they love!
Saturday, October 5th, 2013 08:41 am (UTC)
A+ would read because I am also all about ladies losing the men they love!

And you know me and ladies on revenge quests....
Saturday, October 5th, 2013 02:39 pm (UTC)
Write this? Because I am so fucking sick of Women in Refrigerators, I cannot even tell you. Let's get some women avenging those they love.
Monday, October 7th, 2013 06:07 am (UTC)
Probably, not, because only you and qualapec would read it, but damn, I wish it existed already, so I could read it.
Edited 2013-10-07 06:08 am (UTC)