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redbrunja ([personal profile] redbrunja) wrote2008-09-05 02:32 pm
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Are You A Writer or Not? -Wait, Don't Answer That.

Okay, I kinda might be seeing the Twilight movie just for Pattinson, who I have the feeling is deeply regretting what he decided to do for his paycheck and has damn fine cheekbones:

"When you read the book," says Pattinson, looking appropriately pallid and interesting even without makeup, "it's like, 'Edward Cullen was so beautiful I creamed myself.' I mean, every line is like that. He's the most ridiculous person who's so amazing at everything. I think a lot of actors tried to play that aspect. I just couldn't do that. And the more I read the script, the more I hated this guy, so that's how I played him, as a manic-depressive who hates himself. Plus, he's a 108-year-old virgin so he's obviously got some issues there."

Oh, Pattinson, let me save you from the fangirls. Apparently he once described the sound of the pre-teens and teens screaming outside the filming site as sounding like the gates of hell.

Also, is it canon that while everyone else was screwing around, Edward was taking up knitting or whatever?

And can I just add that Meyer's reaction to the leak of her next novel pissed me off beyond belief? Okay, I'm not even going to get into how stupid it is that she's writing Twilight from Edward's pov - that book didn't need to be written once, much less twice, you get me?

But the fact that she is now not NOT going to write that book because a large number of her fans are so desperate to read her writing that they stole it? Pisses me off.

Oh, boo-hoo, you're making a huge amount of money and have a loyal fanbase.

In her place, I would be PISSED that someone put my work out before it was ready, and I might go back and change things to keep the work fresh, but I CERTAINLY won't STOP WRITING IT.

God, what a whiny brat.

[identity profile] meganbmoore.livejournal.com 2008-09-05 09:49 pm (UTC)(link)
My problem isn't that she said she wasn't going to write it (I understand that response) it was the "I am sad and wounded and I might if you love me and pet me and give me chocolate and tell me what a special butterfly I am" part.

[identity profile] redbrunja.livejournal.com 2008-09-08 05:52 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, the brat needs to learn to stroke her own ego.
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[identity profile] fani.livejournal.com 2008-09-06 03:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah but, she had to slog through more rejection letters over HP as opposed to Stephenie Meyer who got only 14 rejection letters. While I don't think JK is TEH GREATEST WRITER EVARR I think she has an idea of how difficult it is to get published i you're an author with no previously published work. I watched a documentary about her life and her publisher basically says, "I'll publish this book but don't quit your dayjob." Therefore, that woman is not going to take her chance to publish more HP for granted.

Whereas Meyer is getting the benefit of HP's box -office numbers. Because of HP, publishers are more likely to publish anything involving magical creatures like vampires, werewolf or witches because 'OMG THEY'LL MAKE MONEY'. (although the content of these recently published Fantasy Themed teen/children' books are questionable for the most part) So really, Meyer is the victim of publisher's desire to publish things that has money. Put it to you this way, JK worked hard to earn her mullah while Meyer just won a lottery. Who do you think will be more wise with their chances?

Anyway sorry to TL: DR but I like chattin' up with you for the most part.

[identity profile] redbrunja.livejournal.com 2008-09-08 05:51 am (UTC)(link)
Rowling has more class in a silver of her pinky nail than Meyer's does in her whole body, and I"m not one of those 'Rowling is a god!' people.
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[identity profile] redbrunja.livejournal.com 2008-09-08 05:45 am (UTC)(link)
I know! I totally don't understand the motivation of writing the same thing just from a different pov. It's boring even when it's fanfic, you know?

[identity profile] theladyfeylene.livejournal.com 2008-09-05 10:17 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm of the camp that believes Smeyer a) wants the attention and the 'WE LUVS U!' reactions, and b) is burnt out on Twilight (as she admitted in an interview) and is using this as an excuse to abandon a project she's really not into anymore.

And the way she essentially put the blame on the fans - the people that leaked it didn't mean anything bad, they are trusted friends! But fans have read it so now I am sad! - really raised my hackles.

The woman seriously makes me angry, on so many levels.

[identity profile] redbrunja.livejournal.com 2008-09-08 12:40 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, word. In fact, that was my first reaction upon realizing that there was an open letter going around for Meyer was: 'why would you feed the attention whore?"

[identity profile] yukitheawesome.livejournal.com 2008-09-05 10:26 pm (UTC)(link)
LOLLL.

Robert Pattinson just got ten billion Internets for that.

He actually won all the respect that I lost for Meyer, and that's saying something.

[identity profile] redbrunja.livejournal.com 2008-09-08 12:38 am (UTC)(link)
That IS saying something.
strange_quark: (p&p: e/d)

[personal profile] strange_quark 2008-09-05 10:40 pm (UTC)(link)
... I am in love with Robert Pattinson, for the sole reason that he took hating a poorly written character and turned it into a legitimate acting choice. <3<3<3 (I kind of wonder what Meyer thought of that comment)

Also, the comment about fangirls sounding like the gates of hell made me laugh for real.

Is she for serious? That kind of thing happens all the time. Didn't it happen, like, three times with Harry Potter? J.K. Rowling didn't give up on the Harry Potter series because someone stole a crate of copies of Order of the Phoenix.

God, what a whiny brat.

Kind of like Bella. Who is totally not a Mary Sue. At all. Nope, no sir.

[identity profile] redbrunja.livejournal.com 2008-09-08 12:07 am (UTC)(link)
Interestingly enough, published characters are the only ones who I've ever felt deserved the title 'mary sue'.

And yeah, you can tell Rowling was a real author because she clearly had a story she wanted to tell, just because.

And Pattinson is a true professional - he clearly took something where he could have just phoned it in, and gave it his all.
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[identity profile] redbrunja.livejournal.com 2008-09-05 11:51 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, my LOL-tastic god.

"I CAN FEEL IF I WANT TO!"

[identity profile] keirelle.livejournal.com 2008-09-05 11:10 pm (UTC)(link)
I second this link. He also scrapbooks. XD

Re: "I CAN FEEL IF I WANT TO!"

[identity profile] redbrunja.livejournal.com 2008-09-05 11:45 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm assuming you mean Edward. ^_^

Re: "I CAN FEEL IF I WANT TO!"

[identity profile] keirelle.livejournal.com 2008-09-06 02:01 am (UTC)(link)
Lol yes, looks like I didn't reply to the comment above like I meant to. Oops. =P

[identity profile] fairest1.livejournal.com 2008-09-05 11:46 pm (UTC)(link)
I think half my flist has been convinced to watch the movie on the basis of that quote alone (I haven't heard one positive review of the books from anyone yet).

And . . . she's not a writer. An author, but not a writer. Never really had a creative impulse before she got the idea of glitter vampires. And if you've really got a story in your head -- one that feels like it's about to burst in anticipation of being told -- you can't just stop because someone gets a peek at it.

[identity profile] redbrunja.livejournal.com 2008-09-07 06:46 am (UTC)(link)
Word. And if even she is bored with her work - why am I paying attention to her and her ego trips?

[identity profile] fairest1.livejournal.com 2008-09-07 04:59 pm (UTC)(link)
I could buy it if she was all "You're going to be impatient meanies? I'm almost finished writing, but it looks like I'll need another year of revisions . . ." Because it'd give her time to make changes where she could (because a retelling of the first book from another POV can only allow you so much leeway) but has less of the "I'm taking my toys and going home!" attitude.

[identity profile] redbrunja.livejournal.com 2008-09-07 11:43 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, it's like, please have a little more class while throwing a hissy fit. I know I could.

[identity profile] the-sun-is-up.livejournal.com 2008-09-06 12:56 am (UTC)(link)
Oh God the more that boy talks about Twilight, the more I love him.

Smeyer is a crazy bitch and she amuses me greatly.

[identity profile] redbrunja.livejournal.com 2008-09-07 06:42 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, Meyer is like Naruto - something unimportant that I can amuse myself hating.

Also, I really love that icon. Is it gackable?
Edited 2008-09-07 06:43 (UTC)

[identity profile] okroginator.livejournal.com 2008-09-06 01:50 am (UTC)(link)
LMAO ROBERT PATTINSON ALLOW ME TO MARRY YOU AND KEEP YOUR CHEEKBONES GOOD SENSE IN THE HUMAN GENE POOL~

Meyer is a whiny brat about this whole thing. I just--I'm disgusted.

[identity profile] redbrunja.livejournal.com 2008-09-07 06:10 am (UTC)(link)
Those cheekbones need to be preserved for future generations.

So much.

[identity profile] fani.livejournal.com 2008-09-06 03:33 pm (UTC)(link)
While everyone else struggles to get published SMeyer just takes it for granted. T_T

She needs a reality check.

[identity profile] redbrunja.livejournal.com 2008-09-06 05:20 pm (UTC)(link)
She needs a reality punch in the face.

[identity profile] tobu-ishi.livejournal.com 2008-09-07 04:37 am (UTC)(link)
*chuckles* I just finished Twilight, and I would like to pass on my mother's opinion, who read it before me: "This is a book in which NOTHING HAPPENS for the first half."

I completely agree with her. If I was Meyer's editor, I'd have told her to cut the first couple hundred pages down to ninety or less and remove all references to Edward being beautiful and Bella being totally boring. (There are few things that irritate me more than girls who whine about how UTTERLY DRAB they are when the entire male student body is slavering after them. A little self-confidence is a sexy thing.)

That said, I will admit, I enjoyed the scene in the meadow. It was just about the only scene where she bothered to describe anything about Edward other than how BEAUTIFUL and GODLIKE and PERFECT he was, and I liked the tension of two teenagers from completely different species attempting to get physical without one of them tearing the other's head off. She established some good tension there, despite the incredibly dumb sparklevamp twist, and Edward's almost bad!puppyish behavior was a nice change from the TALL DARK SILENT EMO thing he had going for the rest of the book. And I was intrigued by his vampire dad's backstory.

Sadly, everything pretty much went downhill again from there. Vampire baseball, wtf. And wow, Bella, a video recording? Are we feeling a little dead in the brainbox today or what?

Basically, when a book's pacing is 50% eyeroll-worthy teenaged dithering omgdoitellhimilikehimornot?, 2% interesting danger-laced sexiness, 15% Meet The (Vampire) Parents, and then 23% random Flee For Your Life intrigue that isn't really that cleverly done and involves a villain not even introduced until that final 23%? You're doing it wrong. -_-

[identity profile] redbrunja.livejournal.com 2008-09-07 05:39 am (UTC)(link)
See, I bailed on this book at about a hundred pages when I was expected to believe that a girl who can't handle the scene of blood could ever date a vampire, so I'm clueless about the details of most of what you mentioned.

That said - Meyer is doing SO MUCH wrong. SO MUCH.

[identity profile] tobu-ishi.livejournal.com 2008-09-07 07:55 am (UTC)(link)
Curiously enough, her fear of blood is never touched on again. I'm sure it won't bother you to hear that, in the final act of the book, she gets nearly torn to shreds by a rival vampire...but her own broken bones and blood hardly provoke anything like the reaction to those finger-prickings. (Granted, she was very likely in shock by then, but still.) I'm guessing it was a random thought by the author that she subsequently forgot.

Bella in the second half of the book, actually, is almost (almost!) endearing in her total lack of a sense of self-preservation. Half of their conversations involve him going, "And then my dad ripped the throats out of a bunch of deer," and her being like, "Tell me more." *fascinated*

(One of the rare moments when I liked what Meyer was doing was the point when Edward admitted he kept sharing creepy details because he kept expecting the next one to scare her away and couldn't believe his luck, and that he was awed and grateful that she stayed despite knowing what she did. Sadly, I don't think I'll ever really forgive her for the disaster that was the first half of the book, or Bella's treatment of everybody who isn't Edward or her parents.)

[identity profile] redbrunja.livejournal.com 2008-09-07 04:47 pm (UTC)(link)
*rolls eyes*

Yeah, because that kind of phobic reaction just *goes away*. *snort*

And I think that I would like Bela a lot more if Meyer had done that and realized that hey - maybe Bela's a little whacked.

[identity profile] tobu-ishi.livejournal.com 2008-09-07 10:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Actually, after skimming it over again, Twilight is weak as a romance novel, but does pretty well (albeit in a very twisted way) if you read it as a chronicle of a weak-willed girl artificially mesmerized by the vampire powers Edward keeps complaining about (charisma, pheromones, appealing appearance, psychic powers) and the vampire too lonely and depressed and screwed up to let her go or get out of her life, even though he knows how likely he is to kill her in the end, told from the unreliable POV of the hypnotized girl herself.

It at least makes Edward's repeated attempts to leave, repeated pathetic complaint of how dangerous this is to her but how he can't bear to walk away from her, and games of cheat-the-devil with how long he can kiss her before he has to back off and hyperventilate for a while, interesting in a sinister way...and it makes her constant babbling about how magnificent and godlike and lovely and arresting and magnetic he is, go from irritating preteen hormones to something pretty fricking creepy.

[identity profile] redbrunja.livejournal.com 2008-09-07 11:36 pm (UTC)(link)
Now, if only that was the story Meyer was writing/people were reading...

[identity profile] tobu-ishi.livejournal.com 2008-09-08 04:11 am (UTC)(link)
*grins* Well, now that she's gone and had a nervy-B about her Edward's-Story version of Twilight getting leaked, maybe someone with a nice, sadistic sense of satire can step into the gap and fill it up with a fan-novel along those lines? After all, Eddie's the one who'd know what was really going on--Twilight is just the result of Bella's ramblings after his vamp powers poached her brain. XD

[identity profile] fani.livejournal.com 2008-09-07 07:10 pm (UTC)(link)
wow more patience than me! I quit after 25 pages

[identity profile] redbrunja.livejournal.com 2008-09-07 11:36 pm (UTC)(link)
I think that would have been the smart thing to do...