Why Naruto Fandom > Avatar Fandom

[redbrunja]

Because when a poster in naruto_rants  bitches about female character for no reason, 95 percent of the comments will be like, "Thigh high boots are hot, bitch, and we like our murderous healer chicks."

You pull that in Avatar fandom, and you'll have the majority going "burn that waterbending bitch for having a spine! BURN HER IN THE FACE!"

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[redbrunja.livejournal.com]

Too many things to list. Because gods forbid that we have well, written, interesting female leads.

I didn't even get it all the Suki haters ('like, why was she even IN the finale?')

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Same here! And it's the worst when it's the Zutara shippers hating on Katara.

My response: get the fuck out of my fandom.

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Oh, I know WHY people where pissed at Katara, it just made me think they were children who had never been hurt before.

But we of all people should understand WHY Katara acted the way she did. In fact, we should be glad that Katara was so hurt by Zuko's actions, because that means she was really emotionally invested in Zuko. That means she CARES about what he did.

Word! I was like, 'death threats = win!" God I love my pairing during WAT, and apparently only me and three other people had that reaction.

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Yeah, on of the reasons I love Zutara is that Katara can be mad at Zuko, and he can take it. Aang? Not so much. Either she'd hurt his feelings and then the focus would switch to her apologizing and not why she was mad at him, or he'd be confused, like, 'who is this girl? Where's my passive, prize, Katara?"

[strange_quark]

Especially because one of the themes of this show is that hard work is rewarded in the end. It's pretty much essential to Zuko's character arc. Look at Sokka. Not everyone is a prodigy and not everyone gets everything right. Except Aang, apparently

I think people dislike her because she takes the role of caretaker upon herself, and parents sometimes have to be strict. I love Toph, but she can be a brat, and Katara calls her out on it. OH NO.

[strange_quark]

God, why? Just... argh. I've already ranted about this.

and she spent most of the show travelling her dorky brother and two twelve year olds.

EXACTLY. Sokka's the oldest and he's smart in some ways, but he's useless in that sense. (Can you imagine when him and Suki have kids? "Suki, something weird is coming out of the baby! OMG IS IT SICK?? SUKI WHAT'S--" "Sokka, the baby spit up. It's okay.") Katara is the only one really qualified to take care of the team, and if she acts like a bitch sometimes it's because she's fourteen and already taking care of a family, essentially, and she shouldn't have to but who else will?

Agreed. I LOVE Toph's smart comments about the other characters, but if no one called her on her behaviour, I would be sorely disappointed.

Much as I adore her, her behavior often gets a pass because she's supposed to be the snarky one, so when Katara gets on her case fandom sees it as Katara being uptight and bitchy, and that's not fair. I'm sorry, but in The Runaway Toph is out of control and is acting like a selfish child, and Katara takes the punch by calling her out on it. How awful.

By the way, your icon is VERY pretty

Thanks :) Zutara makes everything pretty <3

[strange_quark]

Because Bryke worship Aang like Kishimoto worships Sasuke.

THIS IS TRUTH.

(I felt the need to say that in capslock)

Mostly I'm like "They argue. That's what they do." but I don't think it's fair to place ALL The blame on Katara.

RIGHT. I think their relationship is better for the arguing, honestly. Stuff builds up, they butt heads, they get shit out of their system, and then they have girly bonding moments. Good times.

Katara gets blamed because the fandom loves Toph and she can do no wrong and anyone who disagrees with her is picking on her, how dare they? Well, I love Toph and I love Katara, and I love both of them for their awesome moments and for the flaws that make them human, because neither of them are perfect and with Toph it's not just a physical imperfection.

Basically, I can see where both girls are coming from. So they don't need to be bashed. Calling Toph out of control, that would be justified, but calling them bitches? Out of order.

I agree with this, hardcore.

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I'd much rather have Toph and Katara fighting out their differences than bitching about each other behind their backs. Because that's not them. They're the type of voices something the don't like.

Exactly. Also, if someone had a problem with you, would you rather they let it fester and they resented you for it and when it got to be too much they blew up at you for it, or would you rather they told you to your face and you had a chance to fix it before it got ugly? I know which one I prefer.

I think Toph CAN TAKE CARE OF HERSELF when someone disagrees with her. And Toph DOES NOT get picked on, she has people WHO JUST DISAGREE WITH HER. That is not a crime.

Oh, believe me, you're preaching to the choir here.

I think it's just because people think Toph is the epitome of awesome does everything right, but she doesn't. She twelve. Let her have her flaws, and let people call her out on them. It's how a person grows.

[redbrunja.livejournal.com]

Especially because one of the themes of this show is that hard work is rewarded in the end.

My thought upon reading this sentence: Unless your Aang. And then I got to the end of the paragraph and was like 'hee!'


I think people dislike her because she takes the role of caretaker upon herself, and parents sometimes have to be strict. I love Toph, but she can be a brat, and Katara calls her out on it. OH NO.

And what's great about Katara is that she has a REASON for being the mother-figure -it's not because she's a girl. I love "The Runaway" for two reasons: it's basically a love song to Katara and how awesome she is, and it calls Toph on her shit and issues.

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My thought upon reading this sentence: Unless your Aang. And then I got to the end of the paragraph and was like 'hee!'

Grrr... You've seen my rant about it. I can't do it again.

And what's great about Katara is that she has a REASON for being the mother-figure -it's not because she's a girl. I love "The Runaway" for two reasons: it's basically a love song to Katara and how awesome she is, and it calls Toph on her shit and issues.

I don't think Katara's always in the right with Toph, either, but especially in that episode Toph is acting like a child and Katara was totally within her right to put her foot down.

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Can you give me an example of Katara being in the wrong with Toph? Because I'm usually siding with Katara during their confrontations.

[strange_quark]

I can't point to specific incidents mostly because it's been a while since I've watched some of these eps and I don't remember, but during The Chase I could see things from both of their points of view and I couldn't really decide who I though was right. I think I mostly agreed with Katara but I had a foot on either side of the fence.

During The Runaway I mostly sided with Katara but Toph had a little bit of a point when she said Katara wasn't her mother. I think Katara had every right to put her foot down with regards to the gambling, but there was a little bit of something else in how she lectured Toph that I've had happen to me with older people who are essentially my peers and it pissed me off, so I could sympathize with Toph a little.

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Okay, I see where you're coming from.