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Sunday, October 19th, 2008 07:56 pm
I suddenly realized that I have an appropriately fishy icon with which to discuss Hayate. (I've decided on a name.)

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At the gym today, I had epiphany: I'm watching too much anime, and thus have an utterly fucked up idea about what a realistic shoulder/bust-waist-hip ration is.

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Following a funny Gai icon to the ljer's other userpics, I found myself irrepairably scarred by the explicit Sasuke/Kakashi icons that accompanied the funny Gai icon.

Sasuke/Kakashi = A ENTIRE WORLD OF FUCK NO.
Monday, October 20th, 2008 03:12 am (UTC)
EWW NO DO NOT WANTTTT~ EVEN IF IT WEREN'T SQUICKY BY DEFINITION, JUST NO. IF I AM OPPOSED TO SAKURA/KAKASHI, I AM UTTERLY JIHADDING AGAINST SASUKE/KAKASHI.
Monday, October 20th, 2008 04:30 am (UTC)
I try to be okay with most pairings, and as a Sakura/Kakashi shipper I feel I should have more understanding but... I totally don't.

You know how some pairings just squick you? This one just squicks me.
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Monday, October 20th, 2008 04:29 am (UTC)
*snort* I hear you there. It's totally insane.

I know, I was going 'why is my waist so thick, why is my waist so thick?' and then I started looking at other girls and going '....oh.... so.... my measurements are pretty much average in real life?'

OH GOD, I'M BLIND NOW.

And you didn't even see the chibis with the thrusting and the thrusting and....
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Monday, October 20th, 2008 05:18 pm (UTC)
Aww, Red! I'm glad you realised that anime =/= real life people bodies. That could have been overwhelmingly depressing. Also, I think most of the anime women must have killer back pain. Tsunade self medicates with sake, man.

I mean, I knew that intellectually, of course, but it was just a shock to realize that I was subconsciously EXPECTING that to be the case. It's like, no, sweetie, real woman don't look like the women who outaku boys draw in their basement.

You're totally right about Tsunade, though, and now I want Jiriaya to give her a backrub.

Also, say what you will about Kishimoto (and I say a lot) both Tsunade and Sakura have fairly realistic bodies. Tsunade has the thicker waist those breasts would come with, and Sakura is slight all over, not just at her waistline.
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Monday, October 20th, 2008 08:31 pm (UTC)
*jumps in and agrees*
Tuesday, October 21st, 2008 02:59 am (UTC)
SmirkyMcSmirkSmirk.

LOL, you do that too and I kind of love you forever for it ♥
Tuesday, October 21st, 2008 06:11 am (UTC)
*patpat* If its any consolation sometimes I have a moment where I forget that, no, superpowers aren't real. It's always disappointing to snap out of the 5 minute span of spaced!Bella. (I think your subconscious expectations are a little more realistic, no?)

Umm, no, I think they really, really aren't.
Monday, October 20th, 2008 03:17 am (UTC)
I find that checking user interests before user pics when tracking good icons down helps with that.
Monday, October 20th, 2008 04:27 am (UTC)
That would have been a smart move.
Monday, October 20th, 2008 04:30 am (UTC)
*nods*

If people have pairing listed, or the bio mentions a pairing, it lets you know what to expect from the userpics.

Just go cleanse your brain with Claymore.
Monday, October 20th, 2008 03:27 am (UTC)
Sasuke/Kakashi = A ENTIRE WORLD OF FUCK NO.
... No. Just no.
Monday, October 20th, 2008 04:26 am (UTC)
Agreed.
Monday, October 20th, 2008 03:51 am (UTC)
I think I hate Sasuke/ANYONE else Team 7. (Even if Naruto is a ball of forgiveness.) I mean, anyone. (Okay, maybe warped Sai/Sasuke hatesex.) Kind of an extension of that, Sasuke/Almost Anyone From Konoha. HATE.

Because, seriously. I picture the pillowtalk thusly:

Kakashi: Remember that time where you betrayed everyone multiple times, nearly got several good ninja killed, almost killed your teammates and good friends, and ripped apart any trust we ever had in you by going out to destroy Konoha because of the words of yet another untrustworthy rogue ninja?
Sasuke: ...
Kakashi: Actually, I kinda want to stab you in the eye.
Sasuke: I'm taking my clothes and leaving now...
Kakashi: *musingly* BOTH eyes.

Oh, yeah. Way to base a relationship.
Monday, October 20th, 2008 03:53 am (UTC)
*comes in again* I mean, it's kind of like Azula/any member of the Gaang. Or season one Zuko/any member of the Gaang. Only with the PERSONAL betrayal to add to the tasty wrongness that will never be addressed.
Monday, October 20th, 2008 04:25 am (UTC)
Sort of, only Azula/Zuko are automatically set against the Gaang, so it's betray of only one kind.

Sasuke betrayed not only his friends, but his country as well.
Monday, October 20th, 2008 04:07 am (UTC)
Oh, gods, I love it. That is exactly how it would go.
Monday, October 20th, 2008 07:27 pm (UTC)
Sasuke/Kakashi: because being "worse than trash" is totally a turn-on.

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*Pushes Kakashi at Sakura* There you go, that's better. If you're gonna have a thing with a student, make it one who didn't throw everything you taught them back in your face, you feel me?
Tuesday, October 21st, 2008 02:11 am (UTC)
Sasuke/Kakashi: because being "worse than trash" is totally a turn-on.

That almost makes sense.

*Pushes Kakashi at Sakura* There you go, that's better. If you're gonna have a thing with a student, make it one who didn't throw everything you taught them back in your face, you feel me?

Yeah, and is also, you know, fucking awesome?
Tuesday, October 21st, 2008 03:05 am (UTC)
That almost makes sense.

Haha, yeah I suppose that could be taken a few ways. But I meant it in that Kakashi is not going to forgive Sasuke that easily. Naruto would, Sakura might, but Kakashi? No way.

I really don't get this thing about making really straight men suddenly flamingly homosexual for each other. I suppose I could see Kakashi "experimenting" and never, ever mentioning it again, but Sasuke? I don't think so.

Yeah, and is also, you know, fucking awesome?

Was there ever any doubt? OH WAIT.

Those of us who are smart see the awesome, anyway.
Tuesday, October 21st, 2008 03:09 am (UTC)
Haha, yeah I suppose that could be taken a few ways. But I meant it in that Kakashi is not going to forgive Sasuke that easily. Naruto would, Sakura might, but Kakashi? No way.

That's how I see it. As someone else phrased it, Kakashi has one unbreakable rule (protect your teammates) and Sasuke fucked that royally. Naruto is going to forgive Sasuke at the drop of a hat, Sakura will forgive him but never get rid of the nagging doubt that he's just going to betray them again, and Kakashi never going to trust that boy ever, every again.

I suppose I could see Kakashi "experimenting" and never, ever mentioning it again, but Sasuke? I don't think so.

Frankly, I have a really hard time with that. Kakashi strikes me as really, really fucking straight.
Tuesday, October 21st, 2008 03:33 am (UTC)
That's how I see it. As someone else phrased it, Kakashi has one unbreakable rule (protect your teammates) and Sasuke fucked that royally. Naruto is going to forgive Sasuke at the drop of a hat, Sakura will forgive him but never get rid of the nagging doubt that he's just going to betray them again, and Kakashi never going to trust that boy ever, every again.

Exactly. No amount of groveling or explaining on Sasuke's part (not that he'd ever do it) would let Kakashi fully forgive him.

Frankly, I have a really hard time with that. Kakashi strikes me as really, really fucking straight.

Maybe it's just me. To me, Kakashi reading porn = more sexually open, so I could kind of see him as being the "I'll try anything once" kind of person. Or maybe he was really drunk.

We just did a show up here in which the main character is really straight (in a lot of relationships and in general loves women) who admits, at one point, to have had "a homosexual experience," so that might color my perception a bit.

I don't see being curious about the other side of the fence as negating a person's being straight or gay, but then again I don't choose to define my own sexuality so I'm probably not the best person to talk about that.
Tuesday, October 21st, 2008 06:04 am (UTC)
Maybe it's just me. To me, Kakashi reading porn = more sexually open, so I could kind of see him as being the "I'll try anything once" kind of person. Or maybe he was really drunk.

Hmmmm... I see where you're coming from. For me, I picture Icha, Icha as much more traditionally romancy-novely, only with lots of sex, so rather strongly heternormative.

But a lot of that is just subjective and my guesses based on how the characters 'vibe' for me.

Honestly, I can see Jiraiya having doing a guy easier than Kakashi.
Tuesday, October 21st, 2008 05:13 pm (UTC)
Hmmmm... I see where you're coming from. For me, I picture Icha, Icha as much more traditionally romancy-novely, only with lots of sex, so rather strongly heternormative.

I do, too. It's something about him reading it in public, I think. Like you said, it's just kind of a vibe I get. I don't ship him yaoi, and I don't think he's at all gay, I just think it's something he might have done at some point in his life.

I could so see Jiraiya doing a guy.
Tuesday, October 21st, 2008 08:32 pm (UTC)
Especially if he was wasted. Like, that's how I see it happening.

And I don't know how, but I know that Tsunade knows.