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Sunday, October 26th, 2008 11:18 pm
Took the train back to college.

Everything was fine, and the train even got in early, but I have to admit, I am totally spoiled from having a car (because of mom's car breaking down, I don't have a car at the moment, although that might change tomorrow). See, I don't like, you know, waiting (especially when it's cold and I forgot my jacket) and I took my huge suitcase because, you know, I thought that I would be driving back, and I just get so impatient when I have to, like, wait while other people get off the bus and how the bus doesn't deposit me directly at my front door.

Also, did I completely miss something while not reading Bleach, but do Ishida and Orihime like each other? Interact at all? (Context is #119)

Monday, October 27th, 2008 06:33 am (UTC)
Tite Kubo is an evil tease who hints at anything he thinks the fans may like eith nointention (as far as we know) of ever following through on it, thus resulting in massive "THIS IS/WILL BE CANON!" factions.

Which is another way of saying "no, not really." They spent a lot of the Soul Society/Rescue Rukia arc together, and he was very protective of her during it, leading to a pretty decent following. But she...only has eyes for Ichigo, poor thing, and he has a White Knight complex.

Bleach fandom shipping alternately makes me want to laugh and tear my hair out. That secret actually had me ranting in IMs for a little while earlier. (I mean, if it was a case of his being in love with her and her not noticing/not reciprocating/taking advantage/whatever, I could at least vaguely understand[though not agree] where they were coming from, but there's not even any real evidence that he has that kind of interest in her. Just protective friendship.)
Monday, October 27th, 2008 07:40 pm (UTC)
Tite Kubo is an evil tease who hints at anything he thinks the fans may like eith nointention (as far as we know) of ever following through on it, thus resulting in massive "THIS IS/WILL BE CANON!" factions.

Which is only the most waste-of-time, meaningless debate ever.
Monday, October 27th, 2008 07:49 pm (UTC)
If there was anything to solidly back up any claims of canon? I'd see where they were coming from. This is pretty much "A and B looked at each other in episode 12 and B watched A leave the room in episide 16, so they're canon."
Monday, October 27th, 2008 08:00 pm (UTC)
If there was anything to solidly back up any claims of canon?

Except that it is such a subject measuring stick. For example, Zuko and Katara? Had WAY more subtext and hints that they (could possibly be) canon then Tonks and Lupin did.

But I get so pissed off at the canon/not canon debate because it comes with such a huge value judgement (canon is better) and I feel it misses the point (character interaction and potential character interaction.)

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Monday, October 27th, 2008 06:50 am (UTC)
Yeah, I can get where people get Ishida liking Orihime (frankly, I think he falls for anything resembling a Damsel in Distress, even if it isn't one, but that's just me) but her Ichigo-vision has no room for him. They're 15 and Tite Kubo isn't even hinting at any True Loves in most cases, so I can see them if she ever gets over the Ichigo-vision, but the way shippers like that go over it just makes me sigh. At best.
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Monday, October 27th, 2008 06:59 am (UTC)
If Kubo ever actually does any Official Pairings, I figure it'll probably be Renji/Rukia and Ichigo/Orihime (I think he's really written himself out of and Ichigo/Rukia, by the latest chapters). I admit, I am fairly fond of those pairings as I have a thing for unrequitted crushes, but I doubt anything will ever happen with them (or anyone else) in the series. But, seriously, there's nothing in the book to really indicate that anyone will end up with anyone.
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Monday, October 27th, 2008 04:15 pm (UTC)
*snerk*

I was actually being much more self centered, and going, 'just think, it's only 75 cents as opposed to however much you'd pay for a taxi'.
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Monday, October 27th, 2008 07:39 pm (UTC)
I know, I'm a horrible person.
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Monday, October 27th, 2008 08:36 pm (UTC)

(Orihime autumn icon, free to good home:

I realize that may not be what you had in mind, but it's part of a batch I did a couple of weeks ago, and you're welcome to it if it tickles your facncy at all. - cho)

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Monday, October 27th, 2008 08:54 pm (UTC)

Awww, I'm so glad you liked it!

It's just my regular LJ, but I tag like a mad tagging thing, so this link should show you most of the icons I've made ... (as well as a couple of posts where I'm asking for input while I'm making them).

They tend to lean heavily on Saiyuki, which has me totally besotted. But if you have something else you want, you can always ask - I enjoy making them.

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Monday, October 27th, 2008 04:16 pm (UTC)
Yeah, my first response to that secret was 'bitch, please.' Besides what you just said, it's not like it's the character fault that the writer didn't write what you wanted, you know?
Monday, October 27th, 2008 06:51 am (UTC)
I miss my car, but I'm used to riding buses, so it's not so much a big deal for me. But I agree that having to deal with a bunch of luggage (or at least one huge bag) is extremely annoying when using public transportation.

As for that secret, I used to ship Ishida/Orihime before actually reading any of the manga (saw the first four or five episodes of the anime instead) simply because I hated Ichigo and thought Ishida was funny. Then I quit watching it, didn't pay attention to the series for two years, saw some cute fanart, decided to start reading it, skipped everything until after the Pendulum arc, and now ship Ulquiorra/Orihime. But yeah, neither of these pairings have much solid evidence behind them (UlquiHime more than IshiHime, though) so really, the secret maker has no reason to be bitching. :\

Also, secret #110 is awesome. XD Still love that game. <3
Monday, October 27th, 2008 04:07 pm (UTC)
Yeah, I've been totally spoiled by having a car at college (which is actually a good thing for many reasons, but also because I'm just about the only member of my group of friends who even HAS a driver's lincense.
Monday, October 27th, 2008 08:20 pm (UTC)
I've always liked Ishida/Orihime, but the idea of the ship mostly spawns, as I'm sure you've heard in the above comments, from his and her actions in the SS arc, which aren't actual direct UST. But whatev'.
Monday, October 27th, 2008 11:04 pm (UTC)
I agree with the commenters above. Bleach is one of those series that works well for being just gen or having a ton of romantic potential. I mean, so many things can be read different ways. My problem is that I ship so many people with so many other people that I always feel a little guilty about pairings because then someone's sad because they don't get one (or both) of them. Threesomes fix some of that, but they can be difficult to write.

I don't remember the last time I had over 5 characters in a series where I shipped them with at least 3 different people. And Bleach is my first series where I have the same number of het to yuri to yaoi pairings. It makes reading fanfic a little easier.

But to get back to topic, I do love Ishida/Orihime. They are a cute pairing, but obviously not canon. Anyone who thinks that Orihime has eyes for anyone but Ichigo in canon isn't reading the same series I am. I ship Ichigo/Orihime too... but that's where my guilt comes in. Especially with Tatsuki, because Tatsuki/Orihime is probably one of my favorite yuri pairings.

But there is always fan fiction, which a lot of people in fandom don't get. I might get a little sad about my pairing not becoming canon, but I'm not going to make a big stink about it in communities and such. Of course, I like to think I have a bit of common sense.

To sumarize, the secret poster kinda misses the point.
Tuesday, October 28th, 2008 05:53 am (UTC)
I agree with the commenters above. Bleach is one of those series that works well for being just gen or having a ton of romantic potential.

I actually love series like that. To me, it's just so much more fun to have a whole bunch of potential to play around with than having set pairings. And frankly, I can't ever think of a time when a characters romantic relationships made me dislike them, unless there was something about the writing or behavior itself that drove me up a wall.

To sumarize, the secret poster kinda misses the point.


Yeah, that was my take too.
Tuesday, October 28th, 2008 07:52 am (UTC)
Bleach is one of the few things that approaches having a crush at 15 as...having a crush at 15. (And even with Renji and Rukia-and other SS names you probably wouldn't recognize-even though they're much older in terms of years, they're pretty much their society's 18-20~.)

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Tuesday, October 28th, 2008 02:38 am (UTC)
Trains I don't mind, but I'm used to them from living in and/or commuting to New York.

Buses, however, I despise with every fiber of my being. I avoid them at all costs and beyond all reason. They are cramped and crowded and I guess subway cars can be like that, too, but I still hate buses.

I don't know anything about Bleach, but is it just me, or does that secret reek of sexism? Girl is only awesome depending on which boy she's with? Uh, right.
Tuesday, October 28th, 2008 03:48 am (UTC)
Yeah for some reason I like the subway better than buses. I don't know why.

It does. It's like, why on earth are you blaming a character for something she has no control over? Hate a character for his or her personality and choices, not because they didn't go for your pairing, you know?
Tuesday, October 28th, 2008 04:52 am (UTC)
Yeah, why is that? Trains, but not buses? I'm the same way. Maybe it's the traffic aspect of being on a bus.

Are there many subways out west? I always thought they were few and far between once you get past the middle of the country.

Hate a character for his or her personality and choices, not because they didn't go for your pairing, you know?

Word. You don't see me hating on Katara because she ended up with Aang in the end. (Although I still don't really get that, but whatever.)

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