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redbrunja ([personal profile] redbrunja) wrote2009-02-26 08:52 pm

Wait, They Don't Love You Like I Love You

Oh, Naruto, do you know how lame it sounds to have a flashback and then repeat exactly what the flashback just said? Because... it's super lame.

...and now we have more Naruto-pegging.... *can't think of a way to make it more pervy than it is*

FUCK YES HINATA!

Oh, so now love is to blame for war? Get pegged, Pain. How about whiny little brats who don't have enough inner strength to stop the cycle? How about them? Stop blaming other people for the fact that YOU'RE acting like the ninjas who killed your parents. YOU.

Also, whoever on my flist called Nagato's parents being Konoha ninjas... you called it.

Hinata's latest crowning movement of awesome is awesome.

Thoughts: I kinda hope Hinata is dead, because if not, this could lead to a Hinata/Naruto ending, which while awesome for Hinata (and I want her to get everything she wants), would also probably mean a Sasuke/Sakura ending, which would suck.

You know, this is when I wish SO HARD that Kishimoto had let Sakura learn the jutsu to calm the Nine-Tails. Although maybe we'll have a repeat of her running towards him, and maybe this time we'll get a successful beauty tames the best?

[identity profile] okroginator.livejournal.com 2009-02-27 05:26 am (UTC)(link)
Who's to say he wouldn't use it in a villainous context? Just saying.

But after reading and rereading and analyzing the shit out of Sasuke and Madara's interactions for [livejournal.com profile] reread_no_jutsu, I have to be devil's advocate and say there is a strong, strong chance that his villain face is just an act to get Madara to think Sasuke's on his side.

Which Madara probably knows, and already has a contingency betrayal plan.

God, I love the Uchiha.

[identity profile] anat-astarte.livejournal.com 2009-02-27 05:30 am (UTC)(link)
Hot damn, I love the Uchiha too!! :DD

[identity profile] okroginator.livejournal.com 2009-02-27 05:31 am (UTC)(link)
GUH, YOUR ICON. *drooooooooools*

[identity profile] anat-astarte.livejournal.com 2009-02-27 05:33 am (UTC)(link)
*stares at yours, leans into screen, eyes wide!* OMG yours is great too! :DD

[identity profile] okroginator.livejournal.com 2009-02-27 05:37 am (UTC)(link)
They need to rename this series "Itachi." Problem solved.

[identity profile] anat-astarte.livejournal.com 2009-02-27 05:40 am (UTC)(link)
Ok, seriously? I would love to see a side series about Itachi, how he grew to become the way he came to be, and what the hell happened in between XDD

stops now before this veers wayyyy off from the post topic!

[identity profile] okroginator.livejournal.com 2009-02-27 05:43 am (UTC)(link)
OH MY GOD CHIBI ITACHI

A whole lot of characters need this. Maybe Kishimoto could do a few short one-offs after the series ends?

[identity profile] anat-astarte.livejournal.com 2009-02-27 05:46 am (UTC)(link)
YES!! I would love to see shorties for several characters!! I really hope Kishimoto considers this! <33

[identity profile] redbrunja.livejournal.com 2009-02-27 05:43 am (UTC)(link)
Okay, when have I EVER demanded people be on topic? Take the tangent and run! Run like Sasuke flees before his fangirls!

[identity profile] anat-astarte.livejournal.com 2009-02-27 05:49 am (UTC)(link)
LMAO! You are so awesome red, do you know that?? I should tell you this more often.. <33

[identity profile] redbrunja.livejournal.com 2009-02-27 06:48 am (UTC)(link)
Well, thank you! I know I never get tired of hearing it....

[identity profile] redbrunja.livejournal.com 2009-02-27 05:33 am (UTC)(link)
I have to be devil's advocate and say there is a strong, strong chance that his villain face is just an act to get Madara to think Sasuke's on his side.

Honestly, I agree. It's the most likely with the themes of the manga and Sasuke's story arc so far.

It is also a FUCKING HUGE CHEAT.

Kishimoto had Sasuke THINK "I'm going to destroy Konoha" in his HEAD. He would only do that if that's what he really wanted to do, especially since we already had verbal confirmation that Team Hebi was going for Konoha elders.

Bad storytelling Kishimoto, bad storytelling.

[identity profile] okroginator.livejournal.com 2009-02-27 05:36 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, yeah that was...

I could try to defend it with some sort of 'he's method acting and forcing himself to think out his role even in his own mind,' but no. That won't hold up.

*sigh*

[identity profile] redbrunja.livejournal.com 2009-02-27 05:40 am (UTC)(link)
I mean, even with Itachi, didn't we get that one 'looking tormented' shot to forshadow the reveal?

Kishimoto is giving NONE of that to Sasuke, and considering how much time we've spent with him, that's bad, bad storytelling.

[identity profile] okroginator.livejournal.com 2009-02-27 05:49 am (UTC)(link)
When you read back, there are a whole slew of shots of Itachi looking tormented. That scene in the rain when it was assumed Sasuke died fighting Deidara, a lot of his reaction shots during Akatsuki meetings--even when we first meet him, they were there. I'm thinking of his finger twitching on his cup when he hears Sasuke approaching the teashop. The way his blank face is drawn in the manga when we first meet him looks less blank and more melancholy, IMO. The fact that his first impulse is always to talk, not to throw a punch.

Just little things.

I would argue that since Sasuke's conversation with Madara, chapter 416, is actually PRE-Hachibi fight (or at least it must be, based on the time frame), and then during the Hachibi fight, we actually get a mini-Team 7 flashback before Sasuke fights to save his team, who just fought to save him--I would argue that it's mot necessarily bad storytelling so much as misleading storytelling.

[identity profile] redbrunja.livejournal.com 2009-02-28 06:33 am (UTC)(link)
Itachi and Atasuki is actually one of the reasons I'm really excited about doing a reread of Naruto - because I think a.) being able to tell who's talking in all those Sasuke and Itachi conversations and b.) paying attention when Atasuki is around will help a lot.

I would argue that since Sasuke's conversation with Madara, chapter 416, is actually PRE-Hachibi fight (or at least it must be, based on the time frame), and then during the Hachibi fight, we actually get a mini-Team 7 flashback before Sasuke fights to save his team, who just fought to save him--I would argue that it's mot necessarily bad storytelling so much as misleading storytelling.

Except that AFTER that team 7 flashback and saving his current team, he thinks, to himself, 'I have a power strong enough to destroy Konoha.'

I'm sure Kishimoto is TRYING to be misleading, but he's doing it by breaking faith with the audience, which is bad storytelling, in my book.