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Fandom secret 841:
122: Right, because dropping the character with the most and most realistic character development is a good idea. As for his skill at bending? And fuck you for taking a shot at his bending. It's called working for your skills, instead of getting them god-modded to you.
159: You're still waiting to find a female character that you like because you have problems with women. YOU have problems with women. Try therapy and then talk to me. Because, I'm sorry, if in a group of women with such diverse personalities as Katara, Dax, Mulan, Buffy, and Orihime you can't like even one of them? You have epic fucking problems.
122: Right, because dropping the character with the most and most realistic character development is a good idea. As for his skill at bending? And fuck you for taking a shot at his bending. It's called working for your skills, instead of getting them god-modded to you.
159: You're still waiting to find a female character that you like because you have problems with women. YOU have problems with women. Try therapy and then talk to me. Because, I'm sorry, if in a group of women with such diverse personalities as Katara, Dax, Mulan, Buffy, and Orihime you can't like even one of them? You have epic fucking problems.
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Oh lordy, why did I look? Storm and Ripley and Uhura and Chihiro and Xena and Toph and Luna and Nausicaä and Éowyn? Yeah, somebody needs a shrink, yesterday.
(Speaking of awesome girls who don't deserve to be dissed by self-hating fanbrats like that, I must squee -- my Iplehouse girl has finally shipped from Korea, and has already landed in the US -- she's in the Customs queue at JFK right now, so she should FINALLY be in my hands sometime next week! Dolly-sized Katara cosplay, here we come! *bounces*)
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Word.
And that's so cool!
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I think I'm gonna have a very very early breakfast at the diner next to the P.O., and freakin' TACKLE whatever poor schlub unlocks the door when they open for the day...
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And at least you get a nice excuse for a good, greasy diner breakfast.
rarrr
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As for taking Zuko out - yeah, because taking away the main antagonist for half of the show is a good idea. Sheesh.
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*sighs* I have to say, the secret gave the 'Katara is Aang's girl, not Zuko's' a good run for the money, though.
159: Agreed.
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Didn't it? Aren't you glad that Spring has brought all the troll/fanbrats out of the woodwork?
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It almost made even the rather-batshit-zutarians sound sane. Ah, spring! That's why they're popping out! It's like daisies, I tell you!
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What frustrates me is how unsatisfied a lot of Katara/Aang fans are. Now, I totally understand not being happy with the ending (lord knows I wasn't) but as a pairing, Katara and Aang got an INSANE amount of screen time. Like, more than just about every single pairing (including the canon ones) that I ship. Way to cry more.
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And if you must complain about Zuko, word your complaint more skillfully so it'll be less obvious you're just butthurt about people liking Zutara. >.>
Srsly. I shipped and still ship EdWin as one of my dearest OTPs, but while I may eyeroll from time to time about the difficulty of finding good doujin for them in the flood of yaoi, I deal with it by sticking to the comms I know produce good work and getting over myself. I have never once suggested Roy Mustang or (God help us) Alphonse be written out. They are good characters and what the fandom makes of them does not affect their incredible value to the plot! That's just fan-daft in the worst way. -_-
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But you don't make a good series by obsessing over just the main character. Supporting characters, especially antiheroes, can be downright fascinating, even run away with a fandom (see: Wolverine)...
Yep. And that way you broaden audience appeal, when there's something that just about everyone can enjoy.
They are good characters and what the fandom makes of them does not affect their incredible value to the plot! That's just fan-daft in the worst way. -_-
Word.
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There are a bunch of other reasons why the secret is made of fail, but the other commenters hit it pretty well, so I'll leave it at that and agree with them. However? That is a gorgeous picture of Zuko. What's with these secrets made of fail on artwork made of win?
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I don't know, I just feel that it so epically misses the point how 1.) how good Zuko actually is, even in the beginning 2.) and how a whole part of his character is that he works for his skills, sometimes epically harder than everyone else does.
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Yep, I almost ranted about this in my post. It's like, if Zuko wasn't there, why would they have doing during season one? Why would we have cared when Azula showwed up?
However? That is a gorgeous picture of Zuko. What's with these secrets made of fail on artwork made of win?
I don't know, but I want that pic.
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But it's almost not worth getting worked up about it because trolly secret is so trolly the OP probably lives under a bridge.
159: Yeah, seriously, the problem is not in the characters. Notice how there's one common factor in all of your response to and relationship with these characters? It's you, OP.
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Word. Secret making is made of :FFFFFFFFF.
159: Yeah, seriously, the problem is not in the characters. Notice how there's one common factor in all of your response to and relationship with these characters? It's you, OP.
You and your hatred of vaginas.
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#159, though, is very slightly apologetic and self-aware, so it probably isn't a troll, I guess, though I'd feel better if it were, because. . .gender is not a character type. There are female characters of every personality, shape, and size just as there are male characters, and the only times I see people focusing exclusively on one and not the other are usually issues of attraction, not genuine love of those characters.
Also, Mulan is on that thing. Who doesn't like Mulan? (A bit biased, but still.)
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I have no idea how doesn't like Mulan!
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Like I said, they seem apologetic, though, not angry. I don't really understand them, or why they would have such a problem, though. Many of the characters depicted are three-dimensional characters, and I like many of them for the same reasons that I'd like them for if they were male, so . . .it's sort of just "huh?" to me.
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159 is full of FAIL
159: OK, I guess I can see not liking Luna, Wonder Woman, Storm, Eowyn, (even if I love them) but NAUSICAA? If you can't see why Nausicaa then you have some gender issues, anon. D:
Nausicaa was one of my childhood heroines so I can't wrap my head around the idea of not liking her (Kushana is also awesome.)
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The world-building is amazing, it has strong females of many different types, the best redemption arc I've ever watched, and amazing fight scenes.
The fandom is batship insane, but it's huge, which means there's a lot of good fic and art.
Nausicaa was one of my childhood heroines so I can't wrap my head around the idea of not liking her
There are a couple characters like that in that secret for me.
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159: I'm tempted to call troll on that one. Also, whyyy is paperclipchains in that thread? *reaches for the aspirin*
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BECAUSE YOU'RE JUST THAT WRONG.
And paperclipchains? Do I even want to know?
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*just read the thread*
Oh, internet.
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I've seen them wank a million times, but off the top of my head I couldn't name a single one of their views besides "whatever gives me an excuse to pick a fight". When I saw them there, I thought "Isn't PCC a feminist? Will I (gasp!) not want to punch them for everything they say this time?" Nope! Guess not!
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Funny, I don't even get angry at the retarded Avatar secrets that pop up on f!s anymore. I guess maybe it's a sign I've officially moved on from the fandom. .____.
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2. WTF? This is just a sign that the secret maker is looking at the world from some skewed perspective where women are Other. It's clearly not a personality issue, because that's a wide variety of women the secret maker is trashing there. It's clearly just seeing women as somehow Different. Disturbing.
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I think my least favorite part about the second one is that it led the sexism apologists out of the woodwork. "Just because they hate every single kind of woman just for being a woman doesn't mean they're a misogynist!" O rly? Then what's your definition of it?
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You know, how defensive some Katara/Aang shippers are really makes me feel better about shipping Zutara. It's like, really now? You have the series-long canon pairing and you're THIS NEUROTIC about any threat to your pairing? Really?
I think my least favorite part about the second one is that it led the sexism apologists out of the woodwork. "Just because they hate every single kind of woman just for being a woman doesn't mean they're a misogynist!" O rly? Then what's your definition of it?
Exactly. I mean, I'm sure that it sucks for her that she's so misogynistic and I think it says sad things about her self-imagine, but sugar-coating or denying the truth isn't going to do a damn thing to help her.
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Right. Attacking people for acknowledging it is even worse. Because everyone knows misogynism goes away as soon as you pretend it doesn't exist and treat people who hate women as delicate flowers who deserve a cookie and a pat on the back for their bravery, amirite?
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Exactly! We don't want to poor mistogynists to get their feelings hurt!
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and the Zuko one made me want to go punch someone and read (good)fanfiction >
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