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redbrunja ([personal profile] redbrunja) wrote2007-04-12 10:28 pm
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When Did Bill Willingham Start Hating His Main Characters?

I just finished Fables volume 7, aka the last one the library has, and I'm left wondering,

When Did Bill Willingham Start Hating His Main Characters?

I mean, seriously, in the last two books we've spent more time with Rose Red than we have with Snow White and Bigby combined. I don't know about anyone else, but I'd really like to actually see the next stage of that relationship, or hell, just spent some time with the two people who spend five volumes kicking ass and taking names.

Also, Willingham has some really rigid ideas about gender.

[identity profile] fairest1.livejournal.com 2007-04-13 02:48 pm (UTC)(link)
According to him (I ranted a LOT during the period of over a year that it took to get between decent-sized appearances of Snow and Bigby; he eventually gave a response), Fables is not a comic that's supposed to focus on just those two characters. It's an ensemble book, and he decided to treat it as such.

See, it's stuff like this that fuels my statements of how I seem to like Fables better in theory than reality. The concept, and the characters we're introduced to are awesome -- Snow stood up to Bigby! She's the one you don't mess with, kicking ass and taking names and all that jazz. And then . . . geez. I was hoping for more of a Cordelia Vorkosigan type of mother.

I like to think that, if things had not gone so shittily, Bigby would be the type of father who's thrilled to become a stay-at-home dad and handle the diaper changes and everything so Snow could have time for herself.

[identity profile] mzminola.livejournal.com 2007-04-14 01:37 am (UTC)(link)
On a similar vein in DeathNote, you might want to look at this (http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/51205173/?qo=11&q=by%3Asilentreaper&qh=sort%3Atime+-in%3Ascraps), about gender roles.