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Okay, I'm going to tell you right now, this, the previous post, and the next post are all due to ![[livejournal.com profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/external/lj-userinfo.gif)
qualapec. Feel free to send her flowers.
So, over emailqualapec asked me about what I thought Pepper was afraid of and what her nightmares are like.
Things that Pepper is afraid of:
-poverty (I see Pepper as someone who grew up either poor or working class and does not want to be in that socio-economic bracket ever again)
-Tony dying
-having Tony decide he doesn't really want to be in a relationship with her and having to run his company while he fucks around with younger, prettier girls while she pretends to be fine about it.
What Pepper has nightmares about:
-being in an important meeting/taking an important test and realizing she has no idea what the subject of the meeting/test is
-wearing shoes that keep getting smaller and smaller and that she can't get off, to the point where blood is staining the fabric of the shoes and puddling under her feet
-being lost in building and trying to call Tony over and over while he doesn't pick up.
As I mentioned in an earlier post, Natasha is afraid of three things: being unmade, the Hulk, and feelings. She tells herself that she doesn’t remember her nightmares.
Clint’s greatest fear is being not good enough, when it matters. Post-avengers, it’s about being controlled. He has a lot of nightmares about yelling and slamming doors and being small. Also some more army-standard ones about being under fire and the smell of oil fields burning. Also some about raping and killing Natasha on the helocarrier. Yeah, Clint’s doing his best to cultivate a case of insomnia.
I honestly don’t know what Steve’s deepest, darkest fear is. I know his nightmares are about Bucky falling and being back under the ice, only awake this time. The dreams where he’s dancing with Peggy are almost as bad.
Bruce’s greatest fear is that he’s his father’s son. I don’t know what his nightmares are like.
I’m drawing a blank on Thor, Tony, Jane, and my answers for Darcy would be so transparently mine, they’d verge on out-of-character.
Okay, so, flist, tell me about the other Avenger’s fears.
qualapec. Feel free to send her flowers.So, over email
qualapec asked me about what I thought Pepper was afraid of and what her nightmares are like.Things that Pepper is afraid of:
-poverty (I see Pepper as someone who grew up either poor or working class and does not want to be in that socio-economic bracket ever again)
-Tony dying
-having Tony decide he doesn't really want to be in a relationship with her and having to run his company while he fucks around with younger, prettier girls while she pretends to be fine about it.
What Pepper has nightmares about:
-being in an important meeting/taking an important test and realizing she has no idea what the subject of the meeting/test is
-wearing shoes that keep getting smaller and smaller and that she can't get off, to the point where blood is staining the fabric of the shoes and puddling under her feet
-being lost in building and trying to call Tony over and over while he doesn't pick up.
As I mentioned in an earlier post, Natasha is afraid of three things: being unmade, the Hulk, and feelings. She tells herself that she doesn’t remember her nightmares.
Clint’s greatest fear is being not good enough, when it matters. Post-avengers, it’s about being controlled. He has a lot of nightmares about yelling and slamming doors and being small. Also some more army-standard ones about being under fire and the smell of oil fields burning. Also some about raping and killing Natasha on the helocarrier. Yeah, Clint’s doing his best to cultivate a case of insomnia.
I honestly don’t know what Steve’s deepest, darkest fear is. I know his nightmares are about Bucky falling and being back under the ice, only awake this time. The dreams where he’s dancing with Peggy are almost as bad.
Bruce’s greatest fear is that he’s his father’s son. I don’t know what his nightmares are like.
I’m drawing a blank on Thor, Tony, Jane, and my answers for Darcy would be so transparently mine, they’d verge on out-of-character.
Okay, so, flist, tell me about the other Avenger’s fears.
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(Was it the stuff about Clint that prompted this reaction?)
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Tony's are caves and running out of electricity and everyone else dying and the suit keeping him safe.
I'm not sure Jane has nightmares, to be honest. Or at least, she doesn't yet.
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Oh, that's perfect for Tony.
I'm not sure Jane has nightmares, to be honest. Or at least, she doesn't yet.
...I think EVERYONE has nightmares. Everyone dreams, even if they don't have some dramatic situation that replays at night.
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(He also dreams about running out of coffee and Pop Tarts.)
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Oh, definitely this.
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I think there are two fears...
1. Asgard falls and it's his fault for not protecting it.
2. Loki isn't redeemable at all.
His nightmares would involved that and also losing Jane.
Tony:
1. We were told this in the Iron man 3 ads, losing Pepper.
2. Turning into his dad's worst qualities which is also why he's so damned scared of kids and having one...it's a serious relationship, there has to have had some conversation...
His nightmares would incorporate that as well as losing Rhodey, Rhodey and others turning on him, his suits turning on him, etc.
Jane
1. Jane used to be scared of keeping her position and funding but now she's set.
2. She's scared of not being good enough...good enough at science, good enough for Thor, not having anything she does mean anything.
3. Jane would be scared and angry about using the Tesseract which I think is the canon, non-casting, reason why Erik was studying the cube and not her.
Her nightmares include Thor not coming back after the Destroyer killed him, her science turning against her and probably like Giles and so many others...being blind and/or not being able to read anymore.
Darcy
To me, Darcy reminds me a lot of Oz from Buffy. She's incredibly smart and capable but doesn't really want to take that effort and have people "expect things" from her. However, once she's put in that situation of weirdness...she kind of likes it and taking charge or wanting to.
1. I think having her music taken away was probably a big fear...she also hates not being in control of the situation which is why she uses humor as a defense mechanism.
2. Having to take a regular boring job.
Her nightmares would definitely include the one where the college calls and says that they have to revoke your degree for being one credit shy, Coulson coming back and stealing all her stuff again, being killed by Destroyer and having to work at McDonalds.
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:( Yeah. I suspect his nightmares involve the Hulk hurting people, especially people he cares about. Or tests being done on him.
I think a lot of Thor's fears involve Loki - Loki being unredeemable, Loki dying, that it's his fault Loki went wrong. Probably also some fears about his own actions - like he'll do something impulsively violent, as he did at the beginning of his film.
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This post and the comments are giving me a lot of feelings. :S
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It's true. I am actually a greek muse.
I 100% agree with your Pepper fears/nightmares. And your Clintasha answers give me ALL THE FEELS.
Bruce’s greatest fear is that he’s his father’s son. I don’t know what his nightmares are like.
I think as a child, Bruce had night terrors. Now, I think his nightmares fall into two categories - being utterly helpless and not being able to do anything as the Hulk crushes someone's body in his hands (maybe the person even turns into his mother/father? Or Bruce is standing on the sidelines watching the Hulk do damage and not being able to do anything to stop him).
I peg Tony's greatest personal fear (aside from losing the people he cares about) at watching his mind wither away because of injury, Alzheimers, or Dementia. Like, his intellect is so important to him I think he'd rather just flat-out die than slowly lose himself like that. I'd say Tony has nightmares where he realizes his drink has just been poisoned, his father (sometimes Obidiah) smothering him with a pillow, and Pepper dying.
Not sure what Steve's would be, either. My first thought is that he's afraid of losing himself and his morals (like, bending a little bit all the time and eventually not remembering where the line was or if there was a line at all), which is why he's so uncompromising about them. I think he has nightmares related to his PTSD, definitely.
I'm...actually not sure what Thor's would be, as comfortable as I feel with his character. I think he kind of just feels afraid but then he punches that fear in the face.
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I just love them so damn much.
Not sure what Steve's would be, either. My first thought is that he's afraid of losing himself and his morals (like, bending a little bit all the time and eventually not remembering where the line was or if there was a line at all), which is why he's so uncompromising about them.
I thought about this, and no disrespect meant, but I disagree. I'm going to drop a youtube snippet of DW right here:
...and add that I think Steve is, by the Doctor's definition, a good man. I think that having a really strong, core deep understanding of right and wrong is pretty pivotal to who Steve is. Like, I feel like him losing his moral compass would never occur to him, because I DON'T think Steve would even start on the slippery slope of losing his moral way (unlike pretty much EVER other Avenger).
A couple of different fics have posited that Bucky hadn't been around, Steve would have died of, basically, ill-health and poverty, and that really struck me as accurate. So I think that Steve's fears center around being a burden and being unable to contribute.
peg Tony's greatest personal fear (aside from losing the people he cares about) at watching his mind wither away because of injury, Alzheimers, or Dementia. Like, his intellect is so important to him I think he'd rather just flat-out die than slowly lose himself like that.
Oh, that is bang-on. And I agree, I think Tony would kill himself rather than stay alive while his mind goes.
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No disrespect taken! I mean, I've always known that Steve is the kind of character that I have a hard time grasping, but I want to understand him and everything you've said makes perfect sense. BTW, that clip is going to be my new go-to way of thinking about Steve.
A couple of different fics have posited that Bucky hadn't been around, Steve would have died of, basically, ill-health and poverty, and that really struck me as accurate. So I think that Steve's fears center around being a burden and being unable to contribute.
Oh god, that hits me so hard in the fucking feels.
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Oh god, that hits me so hard in the fucking feels.
DOESN'T IT JUST?!?!!?
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Yes yes yes.