Meta Rambles

[redbrunja]

Here are the answers to the meta meme I was going a couple days ago.

And, since I'm going to be washing windows tomorrow, if you have any fannish questions you'd like me to answer, feel free to ask, because I'd enjoy something to ponder while I scrub tomorrow.

For doriche: Suppose you were in Sarah's place. Would you have accepted Jareth's offer to stay with him forever? Why or why not?

Absolutely not.

Sarah totally did the right thing. At the time, the invitation to stay in the Labyrinth was “I ask for so little. Just fear me, love me, do as I say and I will be your slave.” Which, you know, was totally hot and all, but completely negates any chance of actually having an equal relationship with the Goblin King. If she (or I) had said yes, Jareth would have almost immediately lost interest, had power over her (or me) and turned the baby into a goblin in three minutes.

However, what I would have done differently is, at the end, I would have noticed the owl and opened the window.

For renegadekitsune: If you were Yaone, who would you date? Hakkai or Gojyo?

Without question, Hakkai.

And I can answer this two ways, with what I think Yaone would do, and what I would do if I had the option of dating Hakkai or Gojyo. So I’ll answer both.

First, I think if all things were equal, Yaone would choose Hakkai. Frankly, those two are much, much more compatible in ways that make life much easier in the long term - they both are polite, neat, and have a similar sense of duty. So I think long-term, they’d live well together, and I think Yaone is smart enough to know that.

She’s look at Hakkai and see someone how is honest, understands her, would do anything to protect her (based on Kanan) and would have a much more approachable exterior than Gojyo does.

Part of this is my OTP talking - I find it intrinsically impossible to write a Hakkai and a Yaone who don’t care about each other, regardless of what else is going on.

Also, I find my Gojyo x Yaone (which, don’t get me wrong, I love love love them) is all about the situation - how does what is going on in their individual lives and/or emotional issues make them see this-and-such in the other person? while Hakkai and Yaone is all about the people - I think Yaone is Hakkai’s second chance with the closest think to indestructible he can get, and I think Hakkai is Yaone’s chance to be with someone who will put her first and go beyond the impossible to keep her safe. That their issues, (suicidal tendencies, belief in their worthlessness, Hakkai’s sense of himself as a monster, Yaone’s violent sense of duty and obligation) are real and valid just makes them more perfect for each other.

Additionally, if I were answering this question as me, I would add that I’m an elitist bitch, and an interesting conversationalist is very high on my list of necessary character traits, so with Gojyo I’d worry that after a while I’d get bored and/or irritated with him. And while I might get irritated with Hakkai from time to time (“Didn’t I warn that cleaning other people’s desk’s without permission will earn you retribution?” *takes out handcuffs*) long-term I think it will work.

However, that’s not to say that Gojyo couldn’t sweep either Yaone or me off our feet, because, I mean, it’s Sha Gojyo.

Comments

[pzb.livejournal.com]

Hee.

I think you're absolutely right about Hakkai and Yaone. Gojyo is hot, no question, but I think she'd get bored after a while because frankly, life isn't all about the sex. XD Not to mention once a womanizer, always a womanizer. She'd have to be REALLY damn secure in her relationship to handle Gojyo's flirting. XD

[renegadekitsune.livejournal.com]

Hee! I agree with PZB. (I wouldn't mind handcuffing Hakkai to a bedpost...Who wouldn't?!)

[redbrunja.livejournal.com]

What?!?!?! Defend your pairing women! Have you no pride!

(and I did it for you below. hmph.)

[redbrunja.livejournal.com]

Hakkai handcuffed to the bed would be beyond good.

[pzb.livejournal.com]

Doesn't necessarily have to be handcuffs....belts work well, are more accessible and don't chafe like the hard metal would.

*whistles innocently*

[redbrunja.livejournal.com]

You must have better belts than I do. All mine are faux-leather plastic things, which I think would chafe a lot. Except for the few I have that are cloth, but one of those itches, iirc.

plus, handcuffs are classic.

[pzb.livejournal.com]

The braided leather kind are the best...the bend quite well. But yes, it would have to be real leather to not chafe.

Oh, handcuffs are classic indeed. Just not always easily accessible. XD That's all I'm saying.

[redbrunja.livejournal.com]

Good to know.

And pzb what kind of girl doesn't care around a pair of handcuffs at all times. tch, tch.

[pzb.livejournal.com]

I know, I know. I'm slipping. ;)

[redbrunja.livejournal.com]

You truly are.

(better draw some hxy to make up for it)

[pzb.livejournal.com]

Well, I make no promises about timeliness, but I'll see what I can do. XD

[redbrunja.livejournal.com]

Plz do.

And I suddenly realized after posting my latest that I don't have a hxy naught sex icon. Could I bug you to make another variation of the 'don't touch what's mine' icon? I remember talking about that with you once a long, long time ago...

[pzb.livejournal.com]

Yes, I remember that, but I think I wound up not saving the layered version, but that's no big deal. It'll just be different is all.

What did you want on it?

Oh gods.....so I have time to read this.....shit shit shit.. I knew I should have just gotten up at 5:30 when that anxiety dream woke me up. XD

[redbrunja.livejournal.com]

What I'd like, if it's doable, was something along the color of the textless version, but with the same 'Don't Touch What's Mine' text.

Thanks!

And I'm sorry about the anxiety dream - what was going on?

[pzb.livejournal.com]

I shall certainly see what I can do. :D

Eh, because of all of the issues with my teeth, every couple months or so I tend to have dreams about one or two of them falling out and I'm trying desperately to put it/them back in. Last night, it was damn near all of them. And it was one of those weird ones where I thought it was a dream for a moment, then started thinking it was real. Totally sucked ass.

[redbrunja.livejournal.com]

Oh, man that sounds totally sucktastic.

I hate dreams like that. My axiety dreams usually involve being late for work/school or bugs and writhing things, like maggots.

Fun, fun.

[redbrunja.livejournal.com]

Hakkai x Yaone is my OTP, not question, but I still think Gojyo/Yaone could work.

And I kind of disagree about Gojyo always being a womanizer. I have no doubt that if he ever actually fell in love, he would be totally faithful. You know those Sha men and their promises. Plus, based on his works on the bridge scene, I think Gojyo doesn't want to be living the same life in their 40s as much as Hakkai doesn't. (I know, that sentence is horrible, but I don't want to take the time to rewrite it.)

But Gojyo would always flirt, and I think Yaone would both know he'd never cheat and still worry about him getting tired of her and moving on. But that just provides the lovely angst we adore!

So, in conclusion, I think Yaone would pick Hakkai, unless she was thrown together with Gojyo do to circumstances but bottemline, she'd be happy with either of them, long term. (or, you know, both. ^_^)

[renegadekitsune.livejournal.com]

Hee! What?! Hakkai has always been my favorite, he and Gojyo just...Share a spot....They share a house, so they can share a spot.

And a Yaone.

Hakkai is good at sharing...

They can share me.

[redbrunja.livejournal.com]

They can share me too.

I'd buy a ticket for that ride.

[renegadekitsune.livejournal.com]

I'd buy like, fifty tickets for that ride.

Is there an unlimited day pass on that one?

[redbrunja.livejournal.com]

I bought the lifetime pass.

[renegadekitsune.livejournal.com]

I want one D:

[redbrunja.livejournal.com]

*nods*

[pzb.livejournal.com]

Oh, I have no doubt that Gojyo would absolutely be faithful. You followed up with what I was meaning - he would always be a flirt. And a woman's got to be damn secure in her relationship to handle a man like that - one who's always flirting, but will still always come back to her. But I think you're right - Yaone would worry that he'd grow tired of her and move on.

[redbrunja.livejournal.com]

Yeah, sorry, I just had to get up on my Gojyo=win soapbox there for a minute.

And yes, the flirting and all that it entails would nicely provide angst for their future. And what kind of future doesn't have a little bit angst in it?

[pzb.livejournal.com]

Oh yes, indeed, there would be angst. And so far as fic is concerned, angst is a must. But or a stable relationship, the less, the better. XD

(Course, I'm having my share of angst today, so...yeah.... I'd prefer an angst-free relationship myself. XD)

[redbrunja.livejournal.com]

Oh, poor baby. Want to tell me about it?

But see, if there's just a little bit of angst, that makes it much, much easier to have hot, how-could-I-want-anyone-but-you sex on the kitchen table.

[pzb.livejournal.com]

(Worst timestamp EVER)

Oh, he was just getting snippy with me because of me being upset when we went shopping yesterday about work wasting my time.

So far as fic is concerned, absolutely. :D It can all be nice and neatly resolved.

[redbrunja.livejournal.com]

Oh my god that timestamp is evil! I did know they could ever be that awful!

That must have really sucked. I can totally understand being upset about that.

And with fic - you've gotta have SOMETHING to make the sex interesting ^_^

[pzb.livejournal.com]

Oh yes, they can indeed be that awful. Which is why, as soon as I'm done here, I am SO going to sleep. XD

Yeah. I had to keep from crying in the car. I was pretty pissed with work and then for him to say that, I was incredibly pissed and felt rather betrayed. Just irritates me that some days, it feels like I'm not allowed to be upset about work. But that's gotten better... Still....

Well, there are plenty of things that could make the sex interesting. XD But angst is certainly a sure-fire way to do it. :D

[redbrunja.livejournal.com]

*pets*

You're always allowed to be upset about work. It's why it's called 'work' and not 'funtime.'

And a bit of angst really sets the smut stage, and leads to representive kinks to make the sex even more interesting.

[droiche.livejournal.com]

D'oh! All this time I've been watching Labyrinth, and it didn't occur to me to open the window for the owl/Jereth.

When I read the book, it finally occurred to me how much Sarah really was a selfish child at the beginning of the story. I guess my own maturity as an audience gave me a whole different perspective on how much she had to grow up, while maintaining her childlike sense of wonder.

*nods* If it weren't for the baby (whether a younger sibling or your own child), I would have been hard pressed to say no to Jareth. Just as I'd be sorely tempted to go to Shangri-lah. (You'd see that inner-war if you read CTS). Hell, even if the child was there to protect, it'd be a tough choice. My life sucks just that much that I would probably jump at the chance for a way out. At least with Jareth, you know in advance what his ulterior motives are.

For the record, a *suitably soft rope* is a tool that was suggested to me by an ex-bf a long time ago. I'll never forget that even though I declined. ^_~

[redbrunja.livejournal.com]

Yeah, the first time I watched Labryinth I actually didn't like it, I think because I was too like Sarah at the time and couldn't appreciate her growth. A little later, and I love it.

See, Jareth would greatly tempt me, but I've got to have an equal relationship, or nothing doing. So I'd open the window at the end, when I could be with him without him controlling me.

Soft rope. Huh. I'll keep that in mind.

[droiche.livejournal.com]

Oh yes. When I was teenager, I totally identified with Sarah and felt everyone was picking on her unfairly. As an adult, I understand that she needed to be prodded in order to move forward with her life.


I've never been in an equal relationship, although I always wanted one. Nope. It always ended up with me making the sacrifices and becoming resentful, and him never being satisfied and dumping me anyway.

I think either Genjyo and I would argue all the time, or I would annoy the hell out of him by chattering too much. Either way, I would likely fall into the same trap of giving in to him just to keep him. So we're back to square one.

I've come to the conclusion that I'm better off alone. *sigh*

[redbrunja.livejournal.com]

Yeah, I totally identified with Sarah and then didn't like what it said about me that she needed so much growth and was quite the spoiled girl for a while.

I don't have a huge wealth of past relationships to draw one, but I have the feeling I'd go the other way - not give enough/at all, and that's why we end up breaking up.

And arguing is how Sanzo communicates - I don't think he knows any other way. (And ordering people to do things doesn't count.)

[droiche.livejournal.com]

Yeah. The irony is I have a bad temper. I scream and shout and throw things, but I can't argue my way out of a paper bag. Therefore, I intensely dislike being drawn into debates or arguments or forced to defend my opinions and beliefs.

I think I could stand being ordered around for all of two seconds then tell him to get off his lazy ass and do it himself or it won't get done at all. =-P

[redbrunja.livejournal.com]

Ah. I argue. Oh how I argue. There was a time I thought I might want to go into law because I loved to argue so much. (Which would have been bad because I hate paperwork and if I went into criminal law, which I would because I'd want to do something meaningful, I'd end up hating humanity so much.)

Yeah, one of my favorite panel is Saiyuki is when Hakkai slams down the coffe carafe when Sanzo asks for a refill.

[droiche.livejournal.com]

LOL. My favorite Reload scene is Goku hitting him in the face with the pillow. ^_____^

[redbrunja.livejournal.com]

Yep. That was awesome. And you totally know that anyone else would be so. dead.

[droiche.livejournal.com]

Yerp. Gojyo would have been on ice in a second. I think Hakkai could have gotten away with it. Genjyo is a teensie bit afraid of him. ^_~

[redbrunja.livejournal.com]

True. That's one of the best things about Hakkai - and part of what makes him so hot. However, if Hakkai lost control in that situation I bet he'd throw a punch, not a pillow - but still, I'd like to see that.

[droiche.livejournal.com]

*nods* Hakkai does slap Genjyo right after Ukoku hurt Goku. Mostly because Genjyo was hysterical. (Now there's something you don't see every day, too.) I'm just waiting for Yaone or someone to slap him for being a dope. ^_~

You know what would be really funny is if Yaone boxes Kougaiji's ears for being such a blooming mook. That's something I've been itching to do myself. ^____^

[redbrunja.livejournal.com]

Yeah. I loved that Hakkai did that and I loved the Sanzo needed it. Bit of a different situation, though. Yeah, I'd love the see Yaone slap him for being a dope. (write it, write it!)

Kougaiji... he really falls flat for me. I love his subordinates, but him? Not so much.

[droiche.livejournal.com]

Argh. I am in the middle of an epic fic that's sort of hit a wall. My muse shows up only once in a blue moon. Inconsiderate bitch that she is. >_> I did write me slapping Genjyo once for picking a fight with Gojyo over me. =-P.

[droiche.livejournal.com]

Oh hey. That does give me an idea for a later scene with Kougaiji. X-D

[redbrunja.livejournal.com]

Glad to help.

[redbrunja.livejournal.com]

*snort* that sounds highly entertaining.

[droiche.livejournal.com]

It was. And it was damned hard to write, too. ^_~

[redbrunja.livejournal.com]

Yeah. Sometimes that's the way it goes. The best stuff is usually either the stuff that's really hard to write, or the stuff that just flows so easily.